From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm/Do28gVMOhdm9yYQ==?= Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: combining cond and let, to replace pcase. Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2023 15:31:54 +0000 Message-ID: References: <878r6u3s7f.fsf@web.de> <874jhh62db.fsf@neko.mail-host-address-is-not-set> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="3791"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Nov 28 16:33:10 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1r805G-0000q4-EA for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 16:33:10 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1] helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r804Q-0005ND-BQ; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:32:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r804O-0005N0-9G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:32:16 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x136.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::136]) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1r804H-0003g8-Tv for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 10:32:15 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x136.google.com with SMTP id 2adb3069b0e04-50bc053a9a7so585942e87.1 for ; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:32:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1701185527; x=1701790327; darn=gnu.org; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date :message-id:reply-to; bh=BWOYFkWiAsRT9WbDaxQO/8GVGIZqSxNMCObaJCB7olk=; b=gyQVtBrcJHzGnty+zp4GMvrMWGAIqg1MzRIdzSqJ69E5r5btyAQDohPuCbOz3ge9l1 aMuXQ8kUahGMbBByAW+1LlMyPVKilsQsG0HyqnoCFTa6FRSHSc7Zfo5BBA+qp65XfSkg vyIRihRBfvMDduM+JwNXMSNT2uiC4rDQybJ52DuVHy9fJQuoDe2qp3ze98HvxANvMRCT VJvy/ZGeJgyIQseTPGFX1Weo3Tb70dFWk+s1geh03op1t5KXiHdnahBMyzWsax0My9CN b+IsW/oHYOAzKHldPSAl6D1K/fZ0CrNYNE+SDBB83dUp189l1YA+rvylcHVDX25Nzpzu 3zgQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1701185527; x=1701790327; h=content-transfer-encoding:cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=BWOYFkWiAsRT9WbDaxQO/8GVGIZqSxNMCObaJCB7olk=; b=JskknZ+4j8/MBS3tEotxdB2GUc8cfobHvjyF/ucVqZUtW2Yje+hs9ETzJi1pECSv1w Zpod9WqHftYYWxbVFa+Vx9E5EFBZDOfKK7OKhA3llqMj37WYGzSBbXI00jxkZ+FnKOYG F/J0ABFro2ASWmXH86GNkdBj4hT/NABTDtWL043vohVn6lV0Fa1qIz5o9SJiyLc+7XgG jSpdhFjwozgVicPeJkQplXJ/PQ8gTsoOehdtF9EKdaHx4VdqlMuSDxaltGAV+PCRm1Sa 2yaOnp5igJsh/Mbf3ds/Gftkzprm3mXg8MlUt23ubPXmfH/z62pn7OMVR52AERHjpl4q NvqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0YyWNW+T0pv+tTgPl04LDsZXTkNvwokTSOO8wt+0ZnrOWvIXsnox CO4Wb8a57H6XOGdw+/q5EYR4ZQSZGDIDPrJmORc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFhKyktLVP0ZV0abQfLhbCBLljldvoz814Nk0MN5clqHrTmSJldWq7D0rjLtgQU+7Jf7+nuvOka4jDHZcli9TI= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:308d:b0:50b:a689:1fbc with SMTP id z13-20020a056512308d00b0050ba6891fbcmr10578211lfd.6.1701185526835; Tue, 28 Nov 2023 07:32:06 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::136; envelope-from=joaotavora@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x136.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:313326 Archived-At: On Sat, Nov 25, 2023 at 4:45=E2=80=AFAM Stefan Monnier via Emacs developmen= t discussions. wrote: > > > that is why cl-loop and maybe pcase are "ugly" > > one heuristic could be if autodoc can display something useful > > I suspect it would be difficult to do for `cl-loop` (would require heavy > hacking on `cl-loop` itself), Would it? Isn't this more or less the same information that Edebug already has for stepping through it? Also, has someone also posted the obligatory https://xkcd.com/927/ here?