From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wally Lepore Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: IDE versus emacs Date: Thu, 4 Oct 2012 17:41:56 -0400 Message-ID: References: <83d30y87yi.fsf@gnu.org> <87d30y0z48.fsf@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1349401825 23710 80.91.229.3 (5 Oct 2012 01:50:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 01:50:25 +0000 (UTC) To: "help-gnu-emacs\"" Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 05 03:50:30 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TJx3S-0005tv-FI for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 05 Oct 2012 03:50:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:46479 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJtBF-0003Ql-CS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:42:05 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:54045) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJtB8-0003O0-Pa for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:41:59 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJtB6-0008Id-RZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:41:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oa0-f41.google.com ([209.85.219.41]:40103) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1TJtB6-0008Hv-NN for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 17:41:56 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-oa0-f41.google.com with SMTP id k14so1197377oag.0 for ; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:41:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=a4qhD0tpA8zFMu2S8MZB+YGmOZe20TYx/KbxWvO1u6w=; b=q/XSON266dvvtB0yxChUOvvln45OuWCjt0k0sdKyhS2+ceUKUscad5FZkzMUZWcocV aK5+dz5RiWqvoApUIFGDhHPN3pEM0/bqcQaLStUOaEpmfFXmDdjw8GsWlm3IR4ja0ZYH dHanxQn5JqxzsAiC8rfnFJae7GcQJBXMtCdBjT6rjiBudqVcUJwm348SRgKS553HH2TP ga1TuWjaUkGscNwDrADPk0j3FDUpaRn/A/OGHG07UzsnGUN5+BdBrKBRUYGhacFYQEkc iO5o1ktxnI73Okr03hnALi33/MZY9g+NkUFHcE1MVMNvqdwZkdkt2P4bPvHncj0zkRVO GOsQ== Original-Received: by 10.182.221.97 with SMTP id qd1mr4112466obc.6.1349386916045; Thu, 04 Oct 2012 14:41:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.76.150.7 with HTTP; Thu, 4 Oct 2012 14:41:56 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87d30y0z48.fsf@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 209.85.219.41 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:87049 Archived-At: On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 4:19 PM, wrote: > If you just started with C or programming in general, don't waste your > time searching for a featureful IDE. > Just start coding, it's better to learn a new language without learning > a new editor at the same time. > You probably, also can skip using a debugger at the beginning. > > Have fun with emacs Thank you v.plechinger. Yes I understand. Most of the pre-bundled IDE's I have looked at are quite simple to install (i.e. code::blocks, lcc-win32, Pelles C and Code Lite) and easy to navigate. However I'm simply looking to better understand what each tool actually accomplishes in a full featured "separate tool" IDE rather than simply allowing the pre-bundled IDE packages (i.e. Code::Blocks, Code Lite etc.) to accomplish most tasks automatically for me. Code::Blocks and Code Lite are certainly great products but I simply wanted to know what the "separate tool" route would encompass versus the one-in-all packages. The "separate tool" component IDE that Eli recommended is exactly what I was searching for. Perhaps I will install the most basic of the mentioned tools (emacs and MinGW) and then install the additional tools as I progress. Yes you are correct when you say, "Just start coding". Let me not forget my goal! Thank you for your suggestions.