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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Cc: org-mode-email Errors-To: emacs-orgmode-bounces+larch=yhetil.org@gnu.org Sender: "Emacs-orgmode" X-TUID: e47t6p2VW9bx --000000000000b3cd7805b66b1e70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could you describe a use case? Apologies if I missed this in earlier threads. On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 10:44, TEC wrote: > > A little progress update. > > https://github.com/tecosaur/org-lsp now exists. > > I have no idea what I'm doing, so if anyone has feedback on the current > idea, that would be much appreciated. > > TEC writes: > > > Hi Everyone, > > > > From the Org standardisation effort the idea of using Emacs as the basi= s > > of an LSP server for Org has been mentioned a few times. > > > > I thought this deserved it's own thread so here it is :) > > > > I'm quite keen to investigate the viability of this idea. > > Some key questions that I think need addressing are: > > 1. How can we 'package' Emacs into an LSP client? > > 2. Assuming we use some language as the basis for the host how do we > > want to pick it? LSP library? Lisp? Are there any outstanding > > contenders. > > 3. How much effort is involved? Is it worth it to try to make Org more > > approachable* (without Emacs)? > > > > Lastly, but perhaps even more crucially --- who would be interested in > > working on this? I certainly am, but this feels like something that > > would be more viable with a small working group. > > > > Who's interested? > > > > Timothy. > > > > > > * I can't help but think that this hypothetical LSP server may serve = as > > a 'gateway drug' to Org in Emacs =F0=9F=98=89 > > > --000000000000b3cd7805b66b1e70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Could you describe a use case?=C2=A0 Apologies if I missed= this in earlier threads.


On Sun, 13 Dec 2020 at 10:44, TEC &= lt;tecosaur@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>

A little progress update.

https://github.com/tecosaur/org-lsp now exists.

I have no idea what I'm doing, so if anyone has feedback on the current=
idea, that would be much appreciated.

TEC <tecosaur@gm= ail.com> writes:

> Hi Everyone,
>
> From the Org standardisation effort the idea of using Emacs as the bas= is
> of an LSP server for Org has been mentioned a few times.
>
> I thought this deserved it's own thread so here it is :)
>
> I'm quite keen to investigate the viability of this idea.
> Some key questions that I think need addressing are:
> 1. How can we 'package' Emacs into an LSP client?
> 2. Assuming we use some language as the basis for the host how do=C2= =A0 we
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 want to pick it? LSP library? Lisp? Are there any outstan= ding
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 contenders.
> 3. How much effort is involved? Is it worth it to try to make Org=C2= =A0 more
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 approachable* (without Emacs)?
>
> Lastly, but perhaps even more crucially --- who would be interested in=
> working on this? I certainly am, but this feels like something that > would be more viable with a small working group.
>
> Who's interested?
>
> Timothy.
>
>
> * I can't help but think that this hypothetical LSP server may=C2= =A0 =C2=A0serve as
>=C2=A0 a 'gateway drug' to Org in Emacs =F0=9F=98=89


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