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From: Gavin Smith <gavinsmith0123@gmail.com>
To: Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org>
Cc: Texinfo <bug-texinfo@gnu.org>,
	Andreas Schwab <schwab@linux-m68k.org>,
	13965@debbugs.gnu.org, Karl Berry <karl@freefriends.org>
Subject: bug#13965: info.info conflict between emacs and texinfo
Date: Sun, 18 Oct 2015 20:41:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKPWYQ3Oi+TF4w_uMMTBmv0+Z6Vn_tA+2iroo8nbM-WKvWEmFA__24292.2245212414$1445197342$gmane$org@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0q1tcs3vdi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>

On 18 October 2015 at 19:05, Glenn Morris <rgm@gnu.org> wrote:
> Gavin Smith wrote:
>
>>> I'm sure there are many systems where Texinfo is installed and Emacs is not.
>>> How are people on those systems supposed to learn how to use the
>>> stand-alone info reader?
>>
>> It has its own manual. It doesn't have a tutorial, though. This would
>> have to be added. It shouldn't be hard to cover the absolute minimum
>> needed to be able to navigate through the rest of the manual.
>
> info.info is obviously written to benefit users of both Emacs info and
> stand-alone info. It seems weird to me to delete it from Texinfo just
> for the sake of a distribution packing issue that
>
> i) doesn't occur on Debian-based systems
> (http://debbugs.gnu.org/14064#30)
>
> ii) was solved two-years ago on RedHat-based systems in the rpm
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=927996#c11
>
> If I were packaging Emacs for a distribution (let me randomly say SUSE),
> I'd resolve this issue in the packaging step. But I'm just repeating
> myself (http://debbugs.gnu.org/14064#33). Obviously it's your decision.

Not everyone installs programs via middlemen distributors all the
time. They may download and install a release tarball directly.
Evidently it's a problem for some people, sometimes. For example, you
might install a Texinfo release with an older version of info.info
included and overwrite an up-to-date version that came with the
version of Emacs you're using.





  parent reply	other threads:[~2015-10-18 19:41 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20130318230008.GD31358@gamma.logic.tuwien.ac.at>
     [not found] ` <86d2uwl2mu.fsf@frenzy.freefriends.org>
     [not found]   ` <8761276fgh.fsf@igel.home>
2015-10-17 19:55     ` bug#13965: info.info conflict between emacs and texinfo Gavin Smith
     [not found]     ` <CAKPWYQ2m5T1Mx0q6usVY47OMsXRYt3rHcU8TU9WvWDwdXzTpjw@mail.gmail.com>
2015-10-17 21:38       ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]       ` <rqd1wddvkj.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-10-17 22:28         ` Gavin Smith
     [not found]         ` <CAKPWYQ0BveDKDKoqXECurEJqbs+VKtJu5XdrUq95mjv=311idg@mail.gmail.com>
2015-10-18 18:05           ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]           ` <0q1tcs3vdi.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-10-18 19:28             ` Andreas Schwab
2015-10-18 19:31             ` Glenn Morris
     [not found]             ` <874mho7z7t.fsf@igel.home>
2015-10-18 19:34               ` Glenn Morris
2015-10-18 19:41             ` Gavin Smith [this message]
     [not found]             ` <ota8rg2ctk.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2015-10-18 19:44               ` Glenn Morris
     [not found] <201304022125.r32LPEU4015513@freefriends.org>
2013-04-03  0:24 ` Glenn Morris
     [not found] <201304012234.r31MYN0N023983@freefriends.org>
2013-04-02 16:12 ` Glenn Morris
2013-03-15 11:01 Andreas Schwab
2013-03-18 19:00 ` Karl Berry
2013-03-30  1:02   ` bug#13965: " Glenn Morris
2013-03-30  1:07     ` Glenn Morris
2013-03-30  5:36       ` Eli Zaretskii
2013-03-31 23:21     ` Karl Berry
     [not found] ` <201303312321.r2VNLkox020803@freefriends.org>
2013-04-01  7:11   ` Andreas Schwab
     [not found] ` <m2a9pi67yj.fsf@linux-m68k.org>
2013-04-01 22:34   ` Karl Berry
2013-04-02  7:43   ` Petr Hracek
2013-04-02 16:16     ` Glenn Morris
2013-04-03 11:13       ` Petr Hracek
     [not found] ` <qkmwtgrjwb.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org>
2013-04-02 21:25   ` Karl Berry

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