From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Gavin Smith Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs,gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: eshell manual: texinfo question Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2019 17:40:59 +0000 Message-ID: References: <87h8d74bbj.fsf@len.workgroup> <960EDB66-A330-4EF6-A022-701B3DB6297B@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="5062"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: help-gnu-emacs , bug-texinfo@gnu.org To: Jean-Christophe Helary , Gregor Zattler Original-X-From: bug-texinfo-bounces+gnu-bug-texinfo2=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 14 18:50:02 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: gnu-bug-texinfo2@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1guL98-00010W-8b for gnu-bug-texinfo2@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 18:50:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:52391 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1guL91-0005x1-Re for gnu-bug-texinfo2@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:49:55 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:34013) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1guL4D-0002Xb-13 for bug-texinfo@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:44:58 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1guL0R-0003fd-QK for bug-texinfo@gnu.org; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:41:05 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-it1-x144.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4864:20::144]:53490) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1guL0P-0003Rd-C2; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 12:41:01 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-it1-x144.google.com with SMTP id x131so15828452itc.3; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=zwkDd6k5FHpRhAFPQfhZksj8S/ljrW6M+D8ocEQVEYM=; b=DM9pCKJk3719/urzamveop06XaczzvuYmiHOZJm8W5j8M9WAe23BQtUqG4O9YwOUPD sXQsiRy8IQLV1Ze9RiYRaP6iurt65vxmbw3dEqHjbou7PNU8D8j5xmd/WdhtTdUJgy1F WYjqp1gzH/+/MvKlbdsQq0gtyZAufa8y67GSkOCmYRWjy+pfWS86mXPN8rRIXU0+c3e4 8eh03GMuNbviyw9K1dA0Q6QqyW+2Y0aEmWHVXsD7HycJ1tE2IpaC/gq6PcqU/l9iRHCf /Wp/hnXQ1Wui9gTCaWb0elMaRX6+8K4eivWvANbPLudVHsvEGCnRxAeYfg1fNLjLaKtl 7xPw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=zwkDd6k5FHpRhAFPQfhZksj8S/ljrW6M+D8ocEQVEYM=; b=Ki0WXqQq+3rf8JkkHH3AvhMXerSzJGu5lOtZuZ+jdpG/c1c7J7hlrSmqTFMtk4BsDZ +eezf8QLsfdzLDzpwMqyqkBoXIRWubzSvSR7ft4P1nWMMVo57jHwMD+qZyIXSnQSd+OO 5nXTfnqa+BmbOvniywE4j62huv1axK0TNZg4hcvMA+DHZEDi49MnZSyFhU1D4Z4Piq9a 6KDWQGS9TcmyMu6Y/V6y5UkbzUsutu4y6V2eVbJZ8Igivb1gDgdXdXD/3zOSyj5H0Wqw Q+Z269/G1k72mg1Dk7csmgPJGbd29CS6ObnFOmGxsPPy/SQm/4CDaBeU29v2h+doitw5 8QUA== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuZbSDK1PztsXTDZMZVKX6t7zXZtikyNqxjSsBHRLye/nW2Xk4A1 t4lf9xlV0Hbk4Dm+kGKgCmK/AIhuMMd8DZty7Co= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IY31E1iZq5Hz9RRKP/8Ad4y4oNm+zm52fvrLQNURJargdEq1W+fp9UtshcPnnM1phe9NrlzZIp8a/IuQcEJGJI= X-Received: by 2002:a02:5b05:: with SMTP id g5mr2910230jab.84.1550166060136; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 09:41:00 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 2002:a02:454a:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Feb 2019 09:40:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <960EDB66-A330-4EF6-A022-701B3DB6297B@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4864:20::144 X-BeenThere: bug-texinfo@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Bug reports for the GNU Texinfo documentation system List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-texinfo-bounces+gnu-bug-texinfo2=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-texinfo" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.texinfo.bugs:9607 gmane.emacs.help:119407 Archived-At: On 2/13/19, Jean-Christophe Helary wrote: > Gregor, > > You need to send this to the texinfo dev list. It is not an emacs issue. > > The best way to deal with that is to change texinfo so that the output does > not add arbitrary English strings to the links/references. Those should be > added by the author (it's also l10n best practice). > > Jean-Christophe > >> On Feb 14, 2019, at 6:40, Gregor Zattler wrote: >> >> Hi emacs users, >> >> the eshell.text file as of current emacs master contains the >> following paragraph: >> >> >> The command can be either an Elisp function or an external command. >> Eshell looks first for an @ref{Aliases, alias} with the same name as the >> command, then a @ref{Built-ins, built-in command} or a function with the >> same name; if there is no match, it then tries to execute it as an >> external command. >> >> >> With makeinfo version 6.3 this renders nicely in html: >> >> but not so nice in pdf: >> >> and not in info: >> In the forwarded email, these images were not present, so we can't see what the problem is. (I changing the mailing list to one which is more read.) The pdf output is the Texinfo project's problem, but how the output appears in Emacs Info is very likely the Emacs project's problem.