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From: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com>
To: Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
Cc: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>,
	31946@debbugs.gnu.org, Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>
Subject: bug#31946: 27.0.50; The NSM should warn about more TLS problems
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 17:40:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKDRQS5F-ievTNO6UM-YAHp3nZr8J==qEyXtyW9vj-PDfC-4aA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <836024qmyv.fsf@gnu.org>

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I've been reading a bit more on recent cipher and key exchange negotiation
changes, it appears that the reason 3des "fail" on modern browsers is the
same reason they "fail" dh-small-subgroup and dh-composite. They are not
actually failing if the negotiated KX algo is ECDHE.

As a good measure, I think we should also offer in the high profile, checks
for RSA KX and CBC mode ciphers. They are all marked as weak by modern
browsers. There are apparently enterprise middlewares that decrypt RSA KX
for monitoring. CBC is weak and should also be checked in the high profile
because BEAST and POODLE (high because of compatibiltiy).

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:16 PM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
> > Cc: 31946@debbugs.gnu.org,  Noam Postavsky <npostavs@gmail.com>, Eli
> Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org>
> > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:20:16 +0200
> >
> > Speaking of which -- it's quite a mouthful to say:
> >
> > (open-network-stream
> >  "foo" nil "dh-composite.badssl.com" "https"
> >  :tls-parameters (cons 'gnutls-x509pki (gnutls-boot-parameters
> >                                         :hostname "
> dh-composite.badssl.com")))
> >
> > I've been meaning to add a :tls keyword to `open-network-stream' that
> > would make
> >
> > (open-network-stream "foo" nil "dh-composite.badssl.com" "https" :tls t)
> >
> > a short way to write the above.  I.e., the default TLS parameters (which
> > is what you need in 99.9% of the cases) would be used if you just say
> > :tls t.
> >
> > Does that sound OK to you, Eli?
>
> Sounds good, but does it really require a new property?  Why not a
> special value of the existing :tls-parameters?  For example:
>
>   (open-network-stream "foo" nil "dh-composite.badssl.com" "https"
>                        :tls-parameters 'tls-defaults)
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-27 16:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-23 10:38 bug#31946: 27.0.50; The NSM should warn about more TLS problems Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-24 13:43 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-26  1:23 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-26  4:11   ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-26  6:26     ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-26 12:44       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-26 14:38       ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-03 15:08       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-04  1:34         ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-08 14:20           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:21           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:22           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:34             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 18:50               ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-08 20:01                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-10  2:04                   ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-22 11:05                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-29 14:45                       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-08 18:36             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 19:20               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-08 14:23           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-26  9:27   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-26 14:42     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-27  0:45       ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-27  5:09         ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-27 12:07           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-27 12:20             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-27 15:16               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-06-27 16:40                 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong [this message]
2018-06-28 16:10                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-28  0:14           ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-28 15:58             ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-28 16:15               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-28 16:42                 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-28 17:01                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-06-28 18:15                     ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-29  5:21                       ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-29  5:25                         ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 17:28                           ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 20:30                             ` Noam Postavsky
2018-06-30 23:15                               ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-06-30 23:35                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-01 15:01                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26  4:34 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-26 13:13   ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-26 16:07     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26 17:45       ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-26 18:12         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26 18:19           ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-26 19:36             ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-26 22:56               ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-27  7:23                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-27 15:25                   ` Andy Moreton
2019-08-27 15:50                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-27  8:01 ` bug#31946: 27.0.50; GnuTLS still crashes on MinGW Markus Weber
2019-08-27 15:00   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-27 15:50     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-29  8:05       ` mw
2019-08-29 12:20         ` Eli Zaretskii

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