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From: Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong <wyuenho@gmail.com>
To: Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org>
Cc: Emacs-Devel devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: The netsec thread
Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2018 13:55:01 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAKDRQS477aazpF-aNP8HosWc2_Mkz7W2m+joqK7G98gkCBjWtw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <m3fu0ef8gg.fsf@gnus.org>

Woooo I like this bikeshedding :) Thanks in advance for checking out
the netsec branch. Just a heads up tho, I plan to push my OCSP stuff
this weekend, let me know if you prefer me doing it before or after
your review.

Abobut the issued to and issued by, there are a couple of reasons I
just dumped out the the whole DN, mainly because of DV, OV and EV
certs put different and sometime irrelevent things in the RDNs. But
obvious, current iteration isn't ideal either. Perhaps I should sort
the RDNs, and always outpunt CN=...O=...OU=.... in that order, and
properly wrap them.

As to session info, I can probably merge the TLS extensions into a single line.


On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 12:33 PM, Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org> wrote:
> I still haven't looked at the code for the netsec branch, but I've got
> that scheduled for Sunday.  *crosses fingers*
>
> But that doesn't mean that we can't bikeshed some UI stuff in the
> meantime.  :-)
>
> Here's the current NSM info buffer:
>
>
>
> And here's Jimmy's new one:
>
>
>
> I like the underlining, indentation and *bullet points, but it's looking
> like it's moving more in the direction of a TLS debugging buffer than
> something that a user has much chance of understanding or navigating.
> (The old one also has that problem, but to a lesser degree.)
>
> For instance, displaying the full x.50x/RFC4514 string is a turn-off and
> looks like line noise to most people, I think.  Breaking out the three
> bits that are of interest, the CN from the issuer, the O from the
> recipient, and the host name, is more readable.  (Not to mention that
> the strings are usually too long and will wrap on common
> configurations.)
>
> And in the opposite direction, breaking out all the encryption stuff
> into their own lines doesn't make much sense, I think.  The session
> details could be reserved for the `d'etails buffer.  "Encrypt-then-MAC"
> sounds so...  internal.  :-)
>
> The explanation line ("... is insecure ...") hasn't been folded
> correctly, and it says "reasons" even if there's just one reason.
>
> The addition of the details is great:
>
>
>
> The keystrokes should be more standard, though: SPC for forward and DEL
> for back (perhaps in addition to the one you've got).  And I was unsure
> what "quit" would do -- quit the entire connection or just the details
> buffer?
>
> --
> (domestic pets only, the antidote for overdose, milk.)
>    bloggy blog: http://lars.ingebrigtsen.no
>
>



  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-07-20 12:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-20 11:33 The netsec thread Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-20 12:24 ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-20 12:33   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-20 12:36     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-20 12:41     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-20 12:45       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23  1:52         ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23  1:55           ` Brett Gilio
2018-07-23  2:32           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-23 12:46             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 13:31               ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-23 14:43                 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23 14:46                   ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-23 15:48                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 16:54                       ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-23 19:34                         ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-24  8:24                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-24  9:34                             ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-24 11:54                               ` Andy Moreton
2018-07-24 12:09                                 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-24 13:59                                   ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-24 14:11                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-24 18:21                                     ` Andy Moreton
2019-07-28 18:18                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-28 18:27                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-28 18:33                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-28 18:34                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-28 19:08                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-28 19:12                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-07-29 11:12                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29  7:50                                           ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-29  8:11                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-29 11:18                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 11:14                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-29 14:02                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-30 11:30                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 13:12                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-07-30 13:32                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-07-30 15:05                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-08-07 12:27                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-08-07 18:41                                                           ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-23  2:58                                                             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-23  8:19                                                               ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-23  8:52                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-23  9:01                                                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-23 19:03                                                                   ` Paul Eggert
2019-08-25  5:33                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-03  9:49                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-03 13:30                                                                         ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-03 15:37                                                                           ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-03 19:20                                                                             ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-03 20:02                                                                               ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-04 13:12                                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-09-04 19:34                                                                                   ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-04 21:35                                                                                     ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-04 21:54                                                                                       ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-05 12:12                                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-05 18:50                                                                                           ` Paul Eggert
2019-09-05 19:34                                                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-09-04 13:10                                                                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-23  9:09                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-23  9:40                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-08-23 12:18                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-23 12:39                                                                     ` Robert Pluim
2019-08-23 13:03                                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-23 13:20                                                                         ` Robert Pluim
2019-08-23 14:15                                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-23 14:27                                                                             ` Robert Pluim
2019-08-23 14:40                                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-23 14:58                                                                                 ` Robert Pluim
2019-08-23 15:04                                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-23  9:58                                                                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-23 12:43                                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-08-25  5:32                                                                     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-08-25 22:29                                                                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-08-26  4:16                                                                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 15:22               ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-22 14:48     ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23  0:12       ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23  8:17         ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-23 14:58           ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23 15:06             ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-23 15:37             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 15:51               ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23 16:06                 ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-23 16:11                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 15:04           ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-23 15:24             ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23 15:34               ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-23 16:38                 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23 17:25                   ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-23 17:54                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2018-07-23 20:51                       ` Robert Pluim
2018-07-23  9:55         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 15:22           ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23 15:46             ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 15:48               ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-23 15:49               ` Noam Postavsky
2018-07-23 16:13                 ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-23 10:23         ` Andreas Schwab
2018-07-20 12:55 ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong [this message]
2018-07-20 12:59   ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong
2018-07-20 13:00   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2018-07-20 13:11     ` Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong

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