From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Baker Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#21652: bell chars Date: Sun, 16 Aug 2020 13:10:40 -0400 Message-ID: References: <837dtyiqq0.fsf@gnu.org> <834kp2ilyi.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5670"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: 21652@debbugs.gnu.org, stefan@marxist.se To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Aug 16 19:11:12 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1k7MBb-0001Oq-Kl for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 16 Aug 2020 19:11:11 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49454 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1k7MBa-0000R3-KA for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Yes, but know that I mean the instance bash that I invoked outside of emacs, or the instance of cmd.exe that I invoked in the Windows Run Command box. A separate window, not in emacs. My command that does work runs to completion, and then the computer puts out a beep sound. >> In shell >> mode (and not in all external shells), I can "enter my command" and hit >> enter, and then slap my forehead and >> mutter "gee, I forgot", and enter the "echo bell" command any time after >> that -- the shell mode will execute >> followup lines of commands afterwards seamlessly. All that happens when this runs inside of emacs is that my command that does work runs to completion, and then my "echo bell" command runs and the screen now has a cute little up arrow and a letter G (for the control-G that was output). > I'm probably confused: if shell-mode does beep, then why do you need > any changes? Just be sure to have the "echo bell" at the end of your > command, and it will beep, right? No. The paragraph was confusing, I admit. shell-mode will output a control-G to the screen, silently, and the user sees ^G . >> (IN CASE OF FOLLOWUP DISCUSSION: I already said (in the post to which this >> is a reply) that I can >> withdraw the suggestion. I don't need it any more. [I forget exactly what >> year, 2018, 2019, or 2020, I made >> this suggestion, but I've moved on from it without an emacs change, which >> I did form my own benefit, >> anyway.] ) > > Before we decide that you should withdraw your suggestion, I think > it's worthwhile to figure out whether there's some Emacs bug here. If I do not know how this wound up on a "bug list" when this would be simply an "enhancement". There is no emacs bug.