From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Allen Li Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#25747: 25.1.91; hideshow binding C-c @ C-h overrides help Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:54:34 -0800 Message-ID: References: <834lzuznib.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1487235312 16791 195.159.176.226 (16 Feb 2017 08:55:12 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 08:55:12 +0000 (UTC) Cc: 25747@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Thu Feb 16 09:55:08 2017 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1ceHqE-0003s8-TW for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 09:55:07 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:45297 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ceHqK-00032d-KF for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=mclFpSKzzDBag1CI9rJtkc26PROUSv+XgzO9nNw+A54=; b=lhHUBVjAd3QZLtiNUmPMM46nXbtfW49p/fzYSf1PBscoTT90dvwhEPuRFIxVbpVHu9 yTxukFyJaj9wrjhi6l+CChqa3ETdHBaJBrU/CaEQolP0k/ZWtg4pXfyOXo0pJC7ANZPX 6Wv0oU/Tr7HcKDkKijNMqUnHm5IkoSA4p7LVy6hUA//HtRqxPkJ84bjSMH5jHwaPM064 nsYS8mte8f9gVS8JrdBDFPNErTEQjvqUcbXmeCb+4IIR4mnkS/TsZbndPMudhW1gai6U roCqvZqHXz78xBByMv9jUslJ4ug/4rka1JdG+7jp14PDTv1u38OKWX7uM1fYIrn06M1l y8PA== X-Gm-Message-State: AMke39k5Z1DvnP1pDcLVxZpctRm7NPxRyXHSjG5/llrGlOX/Vxhbs/kwIoUdSGmyTde3zQfco7S3oI23AIrbLA== X-Received: by 10.31.79.132 with SMTP id d126mr544925vkb.24.1487235274987; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:54:34 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.103.120.66 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Feb 2017 00:54:34 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <834lzuznib.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:129403 Archived-At: On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 9:57 PM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > You can type "C-c @ ?" instead, i.e. use the question-mark '?' instead > of C-h. Ah, that's embarrassing. Rereading the manual I see this important bit that I have forgotten: You can get a list of subcommands for a particular prefix key by typing C-h, ?, or F1 (describe-prefix-bindings) after the prefix key. (There are a few prefix keys for which not all of these keys work=E2=80=94those that provide their own bindings for that key. One of these prefix keys is ESC, because ESC C-h is actually C-M-h, which marks a defun. However, ESC F1 and ESC ? work fine.) I guess this is working as intended, then? I was thinking of the recommendation in the style guide, which I have read many times more than the manual: Don=E2=80=99t bind C-h following any prefix character (including C-c). If you don=E2=80=99t bind C-h, it is automatically available as a help character for listing the subcommands of the prefix character.