From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Frederick Bartlett Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Resources for an old newbie ? 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FWIW, my main OS is Fedora Linux, though my company insists that everyone have Windows, so I also use WSL. So I can use it as a text editor proficiently enough, but am quite ignorant of Emacs Lisp (and all other Lisps), though I have written the odd macro here and there. Is there an easy way to learn how to use all the resources in the Emacs ecosystem without becoming an expert Lisper? E.g., I just tried to install helm and am completely baffled by the info and error messages I=E2=80=99m getting: INFO: Loading /usr/share/emacs/site-lisp/site-start.d/lilypond-init.el (source)... While I do occasionally edit lilypond files in Emacs, I was not aware that I had integrated it into Emacs (I mostly use Frescobaldi), and lilypond is not in my init.el file. ERROR: find: =E2=80=98./emacs/helm=E2=80=99: No such file or directory Since I invoked ./emacs/helm/emacs-helm.sh -P /usr/bin/emacs-28.2 from my home directory, I would expect it to know where it is. There must be some extremely basic knowledge that I have completely missed =E2=80=A6 any pointers? Thanks! Fred