From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? Date: Mon, 13 May 2019 11:02:41 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20190502214006.4fdsinp7u5xuqvdv@Ergus> <20190503004416.xfuzzucflp6bxpuz@Ergus> <8736lm30lz.fsf@web.de> <864l61j04d.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190511073254.GB29829@tuxteam.de> <04187AB9-AD7D-492D-A890-BCB01848370C@icloud.com> <20190511075712.GD29829@tuxteam.de> <86a7fsfv1m.fsf@zoho.eu> <20190512075448.GA11650@tuxteam.de> <346107E9-590D-4A18-9152-ECFF36FC4EDC@icloud.com> <83r293bvok.fsf@gnu.org> <87ef53vihw.fsf@telefonica.net> <83mujrbsk7.fsf@gnu.org> <867eavywh1.fsf@zoho.eu> <837eaubesw.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="210619"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon May 13 17:05:50 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1hQCWT-000scP-Ck for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 17:05:49 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58846 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQCWS-0005IA-7g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 11:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:46754) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQCTu-0003zN-Si for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 11:03:11 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQCTt-0008ND-6f for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 13 May 2019 11:03:10 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-f41.google.com ([209.85.221.41]:35983) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1hQCTi-00088c-GH; Mon, 13 May 2019 11:02:59 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-f41.google.com with SMTP id o4so15702363wra.3; Mon, 13 May 2019 08:02:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=iv96fePr61+p/UUxhumzFHnQk/xnpG/EJGbXn+dqpqY=; b=ENxTy+JkvxLvWruBgyRnzf9+U3+Ej1QbwCt3UDRWeWLBlkGlQP4HUpeU0U3tdk814z pNl+3tcEhwy411tP9CrOoTelZZKMUMEgagXdfDH1A2MyMy0v0OBDICGxWN9AjNHIQjMY f1pX4orU0fCQ3l1dbatvmthVeepZdG8K1A0lAsjyok4pfCthupx6+T2c9pD9nVl77Pax Lrp2wVktOlG5wbKp5fPrjDwnN2xuloJdIsS8INsgrxpYC9gXqCniSiNodSSt3mUsKVcR ZO5LzWWFRrKuogM7mxoQSYizjDH/JWLODIEmj9YYJLrkTMjCG0B9g9rq80MWomwX7rKQ sucQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVjWKkeN3gHWwq3Z8/AdSP44SsWPjr6wE0S8MM59iWfaF+7GncO d6jY94CHGUTpHwNGyueZ2foDLjz4phuwkbsL28R9uQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqzsMcpkV1UOn+Vz2r+NiDW1/d8D3dvNOSTbsH4Mn9p1gJU0NeI9eFhI9XCCBvdEwynbgWusHDS4noazeK57cL4= X-Received: by 2002:adf:eb03:: with SMTP id s3mr11814421wrn.170.1557759773428; Mon, 13 May 2019 08:02:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <837eaubesw.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.221.41 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.21 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:120346 Archived-At: On Mon, May 13, 2019 at 10:38 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > Our> debugging support is only up to speed with GDB ... Separate from the display limitations Eli mentions a bit later I would argue that the experience of debugging using gdb-mi with gdb-many-windows set is quite painful. At work various of my team members use gdb via VSCode. On unit and package tests the performance is comparable. Once one progresses to the company's enormous full application the performance difference is startling. /john