From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Yates Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Fill column indicator functionality Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2019 15:48:42 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20190205105340.q7zdbu7kolc7rvpr@Ergus> <83imxytcfr.fsf@gnu.org> <20190205184720.nd43dg5ho47dhqfe@Ergus> <83tvhgsxvm.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: blaine.gmane.org; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:195.159.176.226"; logging-data="121123"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@blaine.gmane.org" Cc: Ergus , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Feb 06 21:57:26 2019 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA1:256) (Exim 4.89) (envelope-from ) id 1grUG5-000VLi-Rq for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 21:57:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:58454 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grUG4-0002bT-Rj for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 15:57:24 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:51372) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grUFk-0002QJ-Mh for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 15:57:05 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grU7t-0007BU-31 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 15:48:57 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wr1-f53.google.com ([209.85.221.53]:42517) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1grU7r-0007AN-VT; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 15:48:56 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wr1-f53.google.com with SMTP id q18so9115880wrx.9; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 12:48:55 -0800 (PST) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=EaBgRNs+++XnXmAeEss2QP2rRZTDiRdd6OlPE9xq0qs=; b=J1/KabtiEMe06AMcFkUI3ftIIzDj6XLxTr7jya+wy+meyQ7UqGt/gaj13nck0Qnz0t xzcHH47h7IBijy8BKiYH7Cm7iE4U1E3xmfVokmEqTsiI7hlm2pEPfhJiF3jrl3EUqZqx M0OwD4Z2zfSy+xwOFnFr3xEFCnDYAG1hXyMWQbmqcyqXUrTCg4+o0NoWT2fKUbGWgiCF ppB975tWkeKUt1tjzJP1zp6hJ6lkZM29j7IANwmjzocad2EoA1A3veDa0GMp6Xh14DwB o5ZZZKcsGIV0NGhJhx30UxzwMWk4KYpYEaMjYgmd8gpomN/BXKgTA5PSVIKUPh5CoaAm C1Qw== X-Gm-Message-State: AHQUAuZfyg0a5MR/NuJGCGz8lUjjVwAUlEfI/wGq9s73vMvVAPsADwbd uYcc85u550Z/Q0t2HJ/78rJ4fYr0mWnh5DOjfTor09UH X-Google-Smtp-Source: AHgI3IaZkKe/CJObouu6C8Rwc5375wuakqpy7aFQXV3CvdN0ucKRBL0hzqPsEHhJtWg948jym3Opb8YSzwfutf/A/NA= X-Received: by 2002:adf:9c01:: with SMTP id f1mr9768751wrc.286.1549486133976; Wed, 06 Feb 2019 12:48:53 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <83tvhgsxvm.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] [fuzzy] X-Received-From: 209.85.221.53 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:233065 Archived-At: On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 11:09 AM Eli Zaretskii wrote: > Perhaps you should start a poll on Reddit about this, and we can then > see how many people would like to use such a feature. Do many people > share you dissatisfaction with solutions that show fill-column only > when it is crossed, for example? I do not follow (proper verb?) Reddit. That said I have desired such a feature for years. My use case (assumed very common) is actively entering / editing mono-spaced text within a window that is at least somewhat wider than the column about which I want some visual forewarning. If I am merely reading I most likely do not care to have such a visual clue. I would be entirely happy with an ability to draw a single vertical line at a nominal "physical" column (not necessarily the fill-column). That line would be drawn irrespective of wrapped continuations or other edge cases. If the column is beyond the window edge then the line simply would not get drawn. If the effect is ill-defined / unpalatable I would be happy to do without as I would be no worse off than I am today. (This seems reminiscent of recent discussion of "layers".) /john