From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Corwin Brust Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: windows Emacs-version issue Date: Fri, 6 May 2022 20:42:57 -0500 Message-ID: References: <857d70m4xd.fsf@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="000000000000cd672705de6218fb" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="14630"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Glenn Morris , Sivaram Neelakantan , Emacs developers To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat May 07 03:44:37 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nn9Uq-0003fq-RF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 07 May 2022 03:44:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39898 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nn9Un-0002TI-IN for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 06 May 2022 21:44:33 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:42060) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nn9TU-0001fC-Ru for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Fri, 06 May 2022 21:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ed1-f53.google.com ([209.85.208.53]:47070) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nn9TS-0004iK-VZ; Fri, 06 May 2022 21:43:12 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ed1-f53.google.com with SMTP id g23so10469320edy.13; Fri, 06 May 2022 18:43:09 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=1iz3jO33XnVzXWM6sghQHG43i0M2iS6/tdKExcz14GM=; b=zayBZKqECZUCwK+TTZagRXRHW+p1rWlQ5UKJsC4zELSyimKuMvztNJKKQyEtl2XwjO 5MZIuBRqE4s5Zm64FaI8+YWd3iyK38UAIrOR3Gln8tShGxXthpOqJpbvRSrqy0zgGwEy CwxQT3RYol9VP0Gc/Rqay3geDjMTXN5UUhALtMijeGuhXY8ZvJYCbAGVUdTcE5gjA7ZI iw+5EgSkwfO1WgdHxrdQKHGw3eUb9y4IPjiyIXIp/P3RE8dZuL/nor3sdw8+C9o0T67+ 8XksahNkFO/aG8p9T9DpuxgmilayHvQIP6UdVhLK27iZKMJv3Im6KJHpbUYvT62ZHHO0 Hf1A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531zhCGZsDkUAjTavUWGj5FKIdpR01rgCK1fGwOA7PHOdE4ra/EE /OtT1LLdIOBKoj0TC3AmBhT0mFJMBbq6t7+oi8g= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzxalEahG5u9klcLfBJvIU/EhvBXb3gZHeLbotOxEB44aUPORXdtMhNqE3RALlGYwDpWeXrvlGt4+9zJejgRBs= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d44d:0:b0:425:ecf1:e0bd with SMTP id q13-20020aa7d44d000000b00425ecf1e0bdmr6487070edr.309.1651887787822; Fri, 06 May 2022 18:43:07 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.208.53; envelope-from=mplscorwin@gmail.com; helo=mail-ed1-f53.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:289364 Archived-At: --000000000000cd672705de6218fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Fri, May 6, 2022 at 6:15 PM Stefan Monnier wrote: > > For me the point is much simpler, in that it avoids issues like caches > that are out of date [ And it simplifies questions about "did you > download before or after I pushed the new build"? ] > If issues are reported using M-x report-emacs then the build date is provided, which can easily be contrasted with the date shown on the FTP site. Perhaps I'm missing something, but it's not clear to me yet what practical problems might be resolved/reduced by adding (e.g.) a build-count to the filename. In this case, I believe if OP had been aware of the sync-status page for the mirrors at the time of their confusion, then it would have been clear that (my assumption here) the discrepancy observed was due to a sync issue for the particular mirror used. I think it would be ideal to hear from other people who are using these binaries releases before we elect a change in naming these files; they have been consistent for quite some time. I was using them for years before I volunteered to help create them. In my view, the complexity of needing to understand whether one wants the emacs-.zip vs the emacs--installer.exe vs the emacs- X-Attachment-Id: f_l2v7527l0 IyEvdXNyL2Jpbi9iYXNoDQojIGNyZWF0ZSBFbWFjcyAyOC4xIFdpbmRvd3MgYmluYXJpZXMgZnJv bSB0aGUgcmVsZWFzZSB0YXJiYWxsDQoNCnJtIC1yZiAvZC9lbWFjcy1idWlsZA0KbWtkaXIgL2Qv ZW1hY3MtYnVpbGQNCmNkIC9kL2VtYWNzLWJ1aWxkDQoNCnRhciAteGYgfi9lbWFjcy11cGxvYWQv ZW1hY3MtMjguMS50YXIueHoNCmNkIGVtYWNzLTI4LjEvDQoNCiMgdW5jb21tZW50aW5nIHRoZXNl IGxpbmVzIHNlZW1zIHRvIGVuYWJsZSBFTE4gZmlsZSBnZW5lcmF0aW9uDQojbWFrZSBjbGVhbg0K Iy4vYXV0b2dlbi5zaA0KDQouL2NvbmZpZ3VyZSAtLXdpdGgtbW9kdWxlcyAtLXdpdGhvdXQtZGJ1 cyAtLXdpdGgtbmF0aXZlLWNvbXBpbGF0aW9uIC0td2l0aG91dC1jb21wcmVzcy1pbnN0YWxsIENG TEFHUz0tTzINCg0KIyBiYWlsIGlmIGNvbmZpZ3VyZSBmYWlsZWQNClJWPSQ/DQppZiBbWyAiMCIg LW5lICIkUlYiIF1dIDsgdGhlbiBleGl0ICRSViA7IGZpDQoNCm1rZGlyIC4uL2luc3RhbGwvZW1h Y3MtMjguMQ0KbWFrZSBpbnN0YWxsLXN0cmlwIC1qIDIwIHByZWZpeD0vZC9lbWFjcy1idWlsZC9p bnN0YWxsL2VtYWNzLTI4LjENCg0KIyBiYWlsIGlmIG1ha2UgZmFpbGVkDQpSVj0kPw0KaWYgW1sg IjAiIC1uZSAiJFJWIiBdXSA7IHRoZW4gZXhpdCAkUlYgOyBmaQ0KDQpjcCBhZG1pbi9udC9kaXN0 LWJ1aWxkL2VtYWNzLm5zaSAuLi9pbnN0YWxsLw0KY2QgLi4vaW5zdGFsbC8NCnppcCAtciAtOSBl bWFjcy0yOC4xLW5vLWRlcHMuemlwIGVtYWNzLTI4LjEvKg0KdW56aXAgLWQgZW1hY3MtMjguMS9i aW4gfi9lbWFjcy1idWlsZC9kZXBzL2VtYWNzLTI4LWRlcHMuemlwDQp6aXAgLXIgLTkgZW1hY3Mt MjguMS56aXAgZW1hY3MtMjguMS8qDQoNCm1ha2Vuc2lzIC12NCAtREVNQUNTX1ZFUlNJT049Mjgu MSAtRFZFUlNJT05fQlJBTkNIPTI4LjEgLURPVVRfVkVSU0lPTj0yOC4xIGVtYWNzLm5zaQ0KIyBi YWlsIGlmIHdlIGZhaWxlZCB0byBjcmVhdGUgYW4gaW5zdGFsbGVyDQpSVj0kPw0KaWYgW1sgIjAi IC1uZSAiJFJWIiBdXSA7IHRoZW4gZXhpdCAkUlYgOyBmaQ0KDQojIHJlc3QgaXMgc2lnbmluZyBh bmQgdXBsb2FkIHByZXANCm1rZGlyIHVwbG9hZA0KbXYgKi56aXAgKi5leGUgdXBsb2FkDQpjZCB1 cGxvYWQNCg0KZm9yIGYgaW4gKiA7IGRvIGdwZyAtLWJhdGNoIC0teWVzIC1iICRmIDsgZG9uZQ0K DQpmb3IgZiBpbiAqLnt6aXAsZXhlfSA7IGRvIGNwIC9kL3Byb2plY3RzL2VtYWNzLWJ1aWxkL25l dy1ob3RuZXNzL2VtYWNzLTI4LmRpcmVjdGl2ZSAkZi5kaXJlY3RpdmU7IHBlcmwgLXBpIC1lICJz L19fRklMRV9fLyRmLyIgJGYuZGlyZWN0aXZlIDsgZG9uZQ0KDQpmb3IgZiBpbiBlbWFjcy0yOC4x Knt6aXAsZXhlfSA7IGRvIGdwZyAtLWJhdGNoIC0teWVzIC0tY2xlYXJzaWduICRmLmRpcmVjdGl2 ZSA7IGRvbmUNCg== --000000000000cd672705de6218fb--