From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Corwin Brust Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Moving kbd to subr.el Date: Mon, 25 Oct 2021 11:06:02 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20211004081724.6281.11798@vcs0.savannah.gnu.org> <31b2f1e94178d73e5f05@heytings.org> <83fsszfnjw.fsf@gnu.org> <31b2f1e9412c9002c8f4@heytings.org> <875ytvpgnn.fsf@gnus.org> <838ryqftlh.fsf@gnu.org> <87zgr487cj.fsf@gnus.org> <875ytrzg13.fsf@posteo.net> <87bl3jjdfw.fsf@gnus.org> <87lf2mwl68.fsf@posteo.net> <874k99f8ev.fsf@gnus.org> <87sfwtrttu.fsf@posteo.net> <87mtn1cdbh.fsf@gnus.org> <87o87hrte4.fsf@posteo.net> <878rylccyi.fsf@gnus.org> <87fssssz57.fsf@posteo.net> <87v91oc49k.fsf@gnus.org> <877de2a746.fsf@gnus.org> <87a6iy463k.fsf@gnus.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000052d1a305cf2f8a26" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26499"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, Richard Stallman , Emacs developers , gregory@heytings.org, Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii To: Lars Ingebrigtsen Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 25 18:09:01 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mf2Wy-0006bO-By for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 18:09:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41540 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mf2Wx-0006jm-EL for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:08:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:54084) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mf2UQ-0004ab-TO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:06:22 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lj1-f170.google.com ([209.85.208.170]:35397) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mf2UM-0007c7-OQ; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 12:06:22 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lj1-f170.google.com with SMTP id o26so14351402ljj.2; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:06:15 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=XJim+VUZa0QNfVrSiY+IDirtIhvKrXLZ+m5DTJWEmwQ=; b=eYVedNv6pubO5OPb119ZpD/JnuXOm18MAKco62rug4BFMe4AwBdT0jK2ty5ClnHy08 gMKvp1rYcDcZi1eoroT8ni1KyELyPibuOXUaen3kImuERSvj91HooHhenZADyc5zBu25 xdOjrurBnh41WGq24je5ArHdSOBm5ZXDy6pEoNQPxz+4+CGJRUqFSWrxtrYd4dKfJAzZ 5szdDPx1oeMIBRYa3lk3a1bE1jIDRjEBXF2ZBbXDPEBDUFhUBapiO058eYb0LUSbDXM5 DrAGfeh9fPoQEroyxIxwi0Ydq4c8nWpe86fuv7PLGf8yHn2sXUO6QSqfC0YrCzS5+K9M kYNg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5323iWvzXW+NTAyWbs3BwUCthPUKBB2v1yMAeKtxFBNIYgtBMzpZ PFSez6obHH517dbAfUX4ATB4dwyxbnqSuVcMkDI= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyryAFTorVcDjtLUMABfmzLeV8FsgCSwCTjW4Np7dIOs4xNARYwulDQu2FV7n4VvHrASE6Er0eXCqBZmXtugfU= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9793:: with SMTP id y19mr19828841lji.120.1635177974648; Mon, 25 Oct 2021 09:06:14 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a6iy463k.fsf@gnus.org> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=209.85.208.170; envelope-from=mplscorwin@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-f170.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -13 X-Spam_score: -1.4 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.4 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FORGED_FROMDOMAIN=0.249, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.249, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:277758 Archived-At: --00000000000052d1a305cf2f8a26 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thank you for the reply, Lars. On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 13:42 Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote: > Corwin Brust writes: > > > Are there design goals at stake here that bind-keys leaves aside? And, > > assuming there, would someone be so kind as to enumerate the design goals > > for a new keyboard binding layer? > > I'm not quite sure what you're asking Now that you ask, I wonderifmy thinkingis muddled, here. -- that Emacs should be pre-loaded > with bind-keys? > That sounds great to me Are there barriers or concerns? > As far as I know, bind-keys uses the same syntax that we're moving to. > Mainly, I'm interested in the goal of the present work. Perfect, to help me understand, would be to put that as a list of 'bullet point' objectives. I will have access to a personal computer tonight. I'll review this thread thoroughly. Likely I can then see the answers from that already once I do. Sorry if I've created undue noise -- and tia for any 'goals in summay' anyone troubles to make. --00000000000052d1a305cf2f8a26 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thank you for the reply, Lars.

On Sun, Oct 24, 2021, 13= :42 Lars Ingebrigtsen <larsi@gnus.org<= /a>> wrote:
Corwin Brust <corwin@b= ru.st> writes:

> Are there design goals at stake here that bind-keys leaves aside?=C2= =A0 And,
> assuming there, would someone be so kind as to enumerate the design go= als
> for a new keyboard binding layer?

I'm not quite sure what you're asking

Now that you ask, I wonderifmy thi= nkingis muddled, here.

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-- that Emacs shou= ld be pre-loaded
with bind-keys?

That sounds great to me=C2=A0 =C2=A0Are there barriers or co= ncerns?


As far as I know, bind-keys uses the same syntax that we're moving to.<= br>

M= ainly, I'm interested in the goal of the present work.=C2=A0 Perfect, t= o help me understand, would be to put that as a list of 'bullet point&#= 39; objectives.

I will h= ave access to a personal computer tonight.=C2=A0 I'll review this threa= d thoroughly.=C2=A0 Likely I can then see the answers from that already onc= e I do.

Sorry if I'v= e created undue noise -- and tia for any 'goals in summay' anyone t= roubles to make.
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