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List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:310212 Archived-At: On Fri, Sep 1, 2023 at 8:41=E2=80=AFAM Michael Albinus wrote: > >>> Agree. Isn't is possible to create an automatic bouncer for > >>> non-subscribed non-whitelisted users to notify them about moderation? > >> > >> That's not done because it would give the spammers the feedback that t= he > >> used mail address is valid. With the likelihood to get more spam. > > > > Is it something that was tried and then had to be removed? > > Don't know, I'm not a debbugs moderator from the beginning. > > > I do agree that the amount of spam will likely increase, but I am not > > sure if it will be unbearable. So, insight from moderators would be > > useful. > > Given, that I'm almost the only moderator these days, I wouldn't like to > check out. Remember, it isn't only Emacs bugs which go through. > > If there would be more debbugs ML moderators, it might be worth to > try. My occasional requests to volunteer die away unheard. I hear you. I will help with this, if you like. Is there a guide for ml moderation? I saw a page on EmacsWiki[1] but it is mostly a list of lists. In any event, you are welcome to contact me off list by email or via carlc@svh. I am volunteering mostly for async types of tasks like this right now because coding currently goes very slowly for me, so I think you should take on others also given more people do step forward. (And please feel free to disregard this if you already got enough help, etc.. :) Warm regards, Corwin [1] https://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/EmacsMailingLists