From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Corwin Brust Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#65027: 30.0.50; [PATCH] Document .elpaignore behavior in the Emacs Lisp manual Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2023 21:22:18 -0500 Message-ID: References: <761581a0-fa77-e89c-01e8-d0baeae838f5@gmail.com> <83cz04xzvk.fsf@gnu.org> <4cf2941f-299c-fdb6-e2f5-375e8fc4e8e0@gmail.com> <992e75c0-32f1-c5bc-e7bd-00c4af5d875d@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26357"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: philipk@posteo.net, 65027@debbugs.gnu.org, info@protesilaos.com, Stefan Kangas , Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier To: Jim Porter Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Sep 06 04:23:15 2023 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1qdiCJ-0006gG-1I for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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If we > want to create such a manual, I think that's the place my patch should > go. However, I'm not sure what the status is on that; I have time to > help out with it, but not enough time to write a whole manual myself. > > I CCed some of the people discussing this into this subthread too. > I'm (still) interested in working on this. I haven't had another offline discussion on this since I last replied in. Key points I observed from that thread were (1) preference for Packaging (not ELPA) as central topic, (2) expectation that we clearly define rules for where to put things, especially WRT to moving things already within some existing manual. My thoughts are in the direction of working on a "mission statement" and outline, as next steps. I hope having an outline will help make it possible to combine efforts from several contributors, there probably are not many people with time to sit down and write a whole manual :) BTW, just in case Someone=E2=84=A2 dies have time for this (and would find this easies to work on if left more greenfield), it won't hurt my feelings to have a "straw-dog" to discuss from, rather than starting from an outline and ground-rules, as I'm suggesting/assuming.