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From: Coleman Gariety <garietyc@reed.edu>
To: Coleman Gariety <garietyc@reed.edu>, emacs-orgmode@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Bug: Secondary smart quotes are exported as apostrophes. [9.1.14 (9.1.14-1-g4931fc-elpa @ /home/coleman/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.1.14/)]
Date: Sat, 5 Jan 2019 19:51:20 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJdAXQwbDsXzJqLv+mbpgAtOa+qZzQTuDtjD5NH0qeFnjnsAsw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87lg42ugu4.fsf@nicolasgoaziou.fr>

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Nicolas,

Thank you for your response.

> When you need that level of precision, smart quotes are not for you.

I agree. However, in specialized fields (linguistics and philosophy, for
example), single quotation marks are commonly used to refer to technical
terms or specialized uses of words
<https://english.stackexchange.com/questions/31420/when-should-single-quotes-be-used#answer-31444>:
"Single
quotes are easier on the eyes when reading material that uses quotes
frequently, which is why academic publishers adopted this format for works
in these areas."

> You can use entities directly to obtain the desired result, e.g. \rsquo,
\lsquo...

I think that this is rather tedious. Do you agree? If so, it seems
reasonable to me that there should be some option to export text such as...

'foo'


...in the form of...

 &lsquo;foo&rsquo;


It occurs to me that an academic who works in the field of linguistics or
philosophy should be able to properly export his or her writing without
using cryptic glyphs ("...") or commenting out line `5545` of `ox.el`. Do
you agree?

Thank you for your time and your consideration.
Coleman

On Thu, Jan 3, 2019 at 3:21 AM Nicolas Goaziou <mail@nicolasgoaziou.fr>
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Coleman Gariety <garietyc@reed.edu> writes:
>
> > Also, it occurs to me that one can make use of single quotation marks as
> > primary quotes when mentioning a word without using it. Moreover, when
> > italics and double quotation marks are also present, the use of single
> > quotations as primary is necessary.
> >
> > For example:
> >
> > 'GNU' is an acronym for the phrase "GNU's Not Unix!" but GNU is an
> > operating system and *not* an acronym.
>
> When you need that level of precision, smart quotes are not for you.
> "Smart" quotes are a dumb way to automate some basic typographic rules.
> Clearly, this is not what you are after.
>
> You can use entities directly to obtain the desired result, e.g. \rsquo,
> \lsquo...
>
> > Is it feasible to add an option to treat single quotation marks as
> primary
> > pairs on export?
>
> I think you are mixing up the level of quotation and the glyph used. You
> can export "..." as single quotes by setting
> `org-export-smart-quotes-alist' accordingly.
>
>
> Regards,
>
> --
> Nicolas Goaziou
>

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-01-06  3:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-31 18:41 Bug: Secondary smart quotes are exported as apostrophes. [9.1.14 (9.1.14-1-g4931fc-elpa @ /home/coleman/.emacs.d/elpa/org-9.1.14/)] Coleman Gariety
2019-01-01 15:46 ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-01-02 21:51   ` Coleman Gariety
2019-01-03 11:21     ` Nicolas Goaziou
2019-01-06  3:51       ` Coleman Gariety [this message]
2019-01-08 10:13         ` Nicolas Goaziou

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