From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Samuel Wales Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: lamers on IRC Date: Wed, 25 May 2022 16:58:55 -0700 Message-ID: References: <87wnedb6xe.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87o7zox6w4.fsf@dataswamp.org> <87pmk1b5ot.fsf@dataswamp.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="9323"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu May 26 02:00:11 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1nu0vC-0002Da-R3 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 26 May 2022 02:00:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:35292 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nu0vB-0001vx-2P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 25 May 2022 20:00:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:57426) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nu0u4-0001vZ-Bg for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 May 2022 19:59:00 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-ej1-x62e.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::62e]:42953) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1nu0u2-0001Gj-JM for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 25 May 2022 19:59:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-ej1-x62e.google.com with SMTP id i27so10918ejd.9 for ; Wed, 25 May 2022 16:58:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=t2o3XjpIMlMP7NYJJeDvFf7MKiqYScjVKEU/d9BXyH8=; b=E007HAPPQYiIsIy2rs4+vj+2ta7UsMvuV+j24EbjZKsIS4vMtTr2yzpsQLgXSHLglN JqJmk67uRd6iSXwaJ88dY8lSDgdVY5hjyvQIzs8ajp5tuHRllgM6kW6YUIFA6PVlaoAv y8Beo1ALM22QeEUZYNUroLaTdbfxe0TCtbMVEmUkCoZHC98RoD8Fe/pw7ylXIeoWYcQ9 HdR22iFzGGSnL0bmUzwoJJSugQE9Fqx+Gu2+WrmAwUed3dMM9ldaF7uFstOW7kq/yncg b316mJ/leP5dOhJtrYsjkObcB+csgzJDbISx+q3G9NdITkUyBdP+TKNHrPWFdRgl1wRl h0Ig== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=t2o3XjpIMlMP7NYJJeDvFf7MKiqYScjVKEU/d9BXyH8=; b=zhsG/id4EyTs4x1cqBdFXAVhe9aD9lhkmDxVfpL73+TPBc/KYYpy6sCVpXCeRO/B1r JU3OWG5+lH2bYGPcHBEiVMdmCneB+OhG5/D3dwbhI4r1j0GIZjnvs2zUgHTW8STy9o/X U82lxwWj6DgpyJ1Bmohn8nfc0H7F5bSbqWR8kfXDKsJDBsj0yr0dGdxZT6TaQuUvMrK1 JWlhr39Fm54frKSvIBfKlG84ZQr2IPGzYeRW1NGo9yL94wPs4DQlw1JUy2dGd9aPTV/1 EGmkw5p2F9N/3FjNL12dd24GmtS7nzVUMdCsp4QnTSZk1JvuUi6UjeKOoVjfuajcvD6n oxIQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530qsBBkso6IPUtlnbJKNKqJl6kyCbmdhFFgVTBvmJvD+pYYULvb AJU57y6PpVtUlbzNlBefbfXWj6fpaKYyhEPzRXuJ+Cyr3euTpA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzBgkTliS9y0WZjdtIq2ktl5ycFOeLxzw9nOpQJ+0tIsLBVHbDCPx7GUHEcYzA/LBoihP4BLbYWGDfirxDC91E= X-Received: by 2002:a17:907:1c8a:b0:6e9:2a0d:d7b7 with SMTP id nb10-20020a1709071c8a00b006e92a0dd7b7mr31061815ejc.572.1653523136425; Wed, 25 May 2022 16:58:56 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 2002:a17:906:478b:b0:6fe:f76c:8596 with HTTP; Wed, 25 May 2022 16:58:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::62e; envelope-from=samologist@gmail.com; helo=mail-ej1-x62e.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_SCC_BODY_TEXT_LINE=-0.01 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:137409 Archived-At: [i wasn't saying that there should be no moderators. i was merely pointing out aht moderators who cause harm exist. and it seems nobody is willing or able to remove the moderator powers or the moderator.] On 5/25/22, Samuel Wales wrote: > the moderator is often the problem. i quit irc completely. but i > have a hard time believing that there are better places. > > On 5/25/22, Emanuel Berg wrote: >> Jean Louis wrote: >> >>> When there is moderator with common sense, then such >>> moderator does not impede the exchange of opinions, but >>> personal attacks, illegal and bad behavior. Then the public >>> learns by example and behaves well. >> >> I personally do not believe in moderators since they often >> don't do their jobs and then it's better not to have them >> at all. >> >> -- >> underground experts united >> https://dataswamp.org/~incal >> >> >> > > > -- > The Kafka Pandemic > > A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: > https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com