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On 5/25/22, Emanuel Berg wrote: > Jean Louis wrote: > >> When there is moderator with common sense, then such >> moderator does not impede the exchange of opinions, but >> personal attacks, illegal and bad behavior. Then the public >> learns by example and behaves well. > > I personally do not believe in moderators since they often > don't do their jobs and then it's better not to have them > at all. > > -- > underground experts united > https://dataswamp.org/~incal > > > -- The Kafka Pandemic A blog about science, health, human rights, and misopathy: https://thekafkapandemic.blogspot.com