From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Jay McCarthy Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#24579: [PATCH] borderless windows on OS X Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 18:27:50 -0400 Message-ID: References: <57EF777A.9030403@gmx.at> <57EFBCFC.50005@gmx.at> <57F0C571.6020204@gmx.at> <57FFD435.5000602@gmx.at> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1476397768 23853 195.159.176.226 (13 Oct 2016 22:29:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2016 22:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: John Wiegley , 24579@debbugs.gnu.org To: martin rudalics Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Oct 14 00:29:23 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1buoV3-0004zt-Mr for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Is there anything I can do to prevent >> that? > > There were objections because people think that the patch does something > on OS X which is not possible on free systems. I presented my arguments > in favor of its application but since I cannot test it I cannot apply it > either. This sounds like a holy war and not a technical argument about the patch. As far as I can tell, most of the 'ns-' variables only work on OS X and their documentation only references versions of OS X and not versions of GNUstep. GNUstep clearly is trying to mimic OS X on this API, so if the attribute masks don't work, that's an error in GNUstep, rather than something Emacs shouldn't do. -- Jay McCarthy Associate Professor PLT @ CS @ UMass Lowell http://jeapostrophe.github.io "Wherefore, be not weary in well-doing, for ye are laying the foundation of a great work. And out of small things proceedeth that which is great." - D&C 64:33