From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Sacha Chua Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [PATCH] NonGNU ELPA update for subed package - moved repositories Date: Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:22:14 -0500 Message-ID: References: <874k741cbf.fsf@sachachua.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000d52d2c05d3b11d6b" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12635"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org To: Richard Stallman Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 22 01:23:51 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mzpQ7-00036L-9N for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 22 Dec 2021 01:23:51 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43286 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzpQ5-00066w-Jk for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:23:49 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([209.51.188.92]:56582) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzpOs-0004iy-Gj for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:22:34 -0500 Original-Received: from [2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35] (port=45670 helo=mail-io1-xd35.google.com) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mzpOq-0005mw-MO for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 19:22:34 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-io1-xd35.google.com with SMTP id q72so680559iod.12 for ; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:22:27 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=sachachua-com.20210112.gappssmtp.com; s=20210112; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=6fRgSIE1SPQObVMsRBE0zqqzs2YMI8EX+OmzscebtAo=; b=IgGMROfT3x0kFo0uurQrTU4Nj3yiK9B0y16bMCTsms0GklQH0qo33ly3DFVAajeHJe Vrw32wgP/SzslXXv7YnjVaNwZ3H3UoLwWgBPylcp0NMiGY1z3MaYs9bIDdcgUxY7C6uN M7ZhL0Wa5jr9a+2iTwm0LNPBc+ko3jN+vygqGq6l4Ir5XzmFZM9ouyaONKjxnxg2BL+V U8qlN82yYWmSmVzewE178JPBA7o4aUk6TOE2dEEThp3t6UgLR9X458R4D/yeLDMLiZT+ NanCuwPnrqV5dHBDPjHUEXIwq8/9sG5bgMfPT50uqrIOm7V/d46vuEPrXwmIieVq1JEN NsBQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=6fRgSIE1SPQObVMsRBE0zqqzs2YMI8EX+OmzscebtAo=; b=0z9Gb2hPm6v7b1+8K3rBpdSHkRSjg3ytHMDtVALXGw4kkjPhxikZGBM1BKrSxqP+qk t1aw49tU/90m0Y2qeeIF5NJwNomwcHkV/IzfdJFfu8hsdcQ2JjGYJdSjS8TR+BvkL2MO aiSc8wXUj+7C54U89W5AS+RxFZNA/derDN6TFtVsresD4gY31vVSVMEcutHEnkfIfBq5 HL+fLbtLM1foaOjYA8Uhqgxe5zlDFHEdP6/J4NwWiY7cstc0/0sB2zQLpxp7H4A9/eqY f58js5/IJYGtkPZep4oX8TIXGdrqTOzX2+SlxArqMqQ19A90rGAn2Kmzk2rv+KBy7h9P k7GQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530TN1SwrO4E08ArbXat38kLHbhONSVkpmjXPdGiJBCyx7ypA0E/ Fay0RF72QJSjXjTr1DOlLLlnlOd98N2iSD+RkNpA9iOjf80= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwnlgpPz1FM0qNu3U9ebDKz5ytzhq6OyCLoxRTHfh1vNcnjqZc2JO0a5AN/YCtPk9/khVFT81P8G67evcATlB0= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6638:2191:: with SMTP id s17mr323339jaj.67.1640132546730; Tue, 21 Dec 2021 16:22:26 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-Host-Lookup-Failed: Reverse DNS lookup failed for 2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35 (failed) Received-SPF: none client-ip=2607:f8b0:4864:20::d35; envelope-from=sacha@sachachua.com; helo=mail-io1-xd35.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -10 X-Spam_score: -1.1 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001 autolearn=no autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:282654 Archived-At: --000000000000d52d2c05d3b11d6b Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" On Mon., Dec. 20, 2021, 23:15 Richard Stallman, wrote: Would you (or someone else) perhaps be interested in chasing down the > significant code in subed.el that isn't assigned, and asking for > assignments for that code? > With the goal of getting it into GNU ELPA? I'm not sure. I think there are nine people in the git commit logs, so it's probably doable, but a large part of its functionality depends on mpv, which is in NonGNU ELPA. Is it okay for ELPA packages to depend on NonGNU ELPA? The ELPA readme doesn't have the same kind of section on dependency restriction that NonGNU ELPA's readme does, and a quick search of emacs-devel for gnu elpa depend nongnu didn't seem to turn up an answer. Also, the original author has mentioned not wanting to scare off contributors with the need for papers ( https://github.com/sachac/subed/issues/29 ), so I kinda want to stick with their wishes especially while I'm getting the hang of things. It's probably going to be just fine in NonGNU ELPA, right? It's pretty niche, but having it in NonGNU ELPA already helps a great deal in making it more accessible to less-technical users. If it's easier for more people to work with captions and subtitles, maybe we'll have more accessible Emacs videos, and maybe even more non-technical users coming in to subtitle stuff. Let's see! Sacha --000000000000d52d2c05d3b11d6b Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On Mon., Dec. 20, 2021, 23:15 Richard Stallman, <rms@gnu.org&g= t; wrote:

Would you (or someone else) perhaps be interested in chasing down the
significant code in subed.el that isn't assigned, and asking for
assignments for that code?
With the goal of getting it into GNU ELPA? I'= m not sure. I think there are nine people in the git commit logs, so it'= ;s probably doable, but a large part of its functionality depends on mpv, w= hich is in NonGNU ELPA. Is it okay for ELPA packages to depend on NonGNU EL= PA? The ELPA readme doesn't have the same kind of section on dependency= restriction that NonGNU ELPA's readme does, and a quick search of emac= s-devel for gnu elpa depend nongnu didn't seem to turn up an answer.

Also, the original author = has mentioned not wanting to scare off contributors with the need for paper= s ( https://github.com/sachac/subed/issues/29 ), so I k= inda want to stick with their wishes especially while I'm getting the h= ang of things.

It's = probably going to be just fine in NonGNU ELPA, right? It's pretty niche= , but having it in NonGNU ELPA already helps a great deal in making it more= accessible to less-technical users.

If it's easier for more people to work with captions and s= ubtitles, maybe we'll have more accessible Emacs videos, and maybe even= more non-technical users coming in to subtitle stuff. Let's see!
=

Sacha
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