From: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: Juergen Sauermann <juergen.sauermann@t-online.de>,
emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Cc: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
Subject: Re: APL mode
Date: Mon, 28 Oct 2013 23:12:41 +0530 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ+Teoe=Ej1LFWifP7K0TrdGp3m7W_NvBESMZ=09EZ6ckxmkHw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <526E9DCE.8080504@t-online.de>
On Mon, Oct 28, 2013 at 10:54 PM, Juergen Sauermann
<juergen.sauermann@t-online.de> wrote:
> Hey, cool !
>
> it worked on my box. Thanks a lot!
>
> /// Juergen
Great!
For the others: some context below.
David, Juergen and I had some off-list mails to make this work on Juergen's box.
> On 10/28/2013 05:53 PM, David De La Harpe Golden wrote:
>>
>> On 28/10/13 15:12, Juergen Sauermann wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I renamed my symbols/extra/apl to something else so that it was not used
>>> accidentally.
>>> Then I put your file as /symbols/apl and tried various combinations of
>>> Shilft, Ctrl, leftAlt and rightAlt.
>>
>>
>> Probably not that simple I'm afraid, e.g. though I confess I'm not 100%
>> sure it's actually used, did you also amend the variants table in
>> rules/base.extras.xml ?
>>
>> Another perhaps dubious (may involve trusting me) thing that might work
>> (no warranty or liability accepted, preferably have a command or gui tool
>> ready to copy-paste to restore your layout):
>>
>> Background:
>>
>> While a lot of traditional X11's interesting network-transparency
>> facilities are kind of bitrotting/withering-on-the-vine, XKB was after all
>> originally architected for a very diverse range of networked gui clients and
>> servers. So the whole thing is designed to allow you to make a layout on the
>> client that the server doesn't know about, then tell the server all about
>> it. We can perhaps use/abuse that here if your system isn't too different to
>> mine, which it probably isn't, the days of trying to get a fujitsu sparc box
>> working with an Amiga or whatever are gone.
>>
>> Approach:
>>
>> Soo... Take the attached compiled .xkm file generated on my system, and
>> try applying it to yours! I just used my setxkbmap and xkbcomp to generate
>> it, you could also have someone you trust with a similarly new system
>> recreate it with a similar command [1]
>>
>> gunzip apl-gen-xkb2.5.1-3.xkm.gz
>> xkbcomp apl-gen-xkb2.5.1-3.xkm :0
>>
>> NOTE: you don't have to blindly trust me. If you do a
>>
>> xkbcomp apl-gen-xkb2.5.1-3.xkm apl-gen-xkb2.5.1-3.xkb
>>
>> it should decompile it for your inspection, and you can then recompile it
>> with:
>>
>> xkbcomp apl-gen-xkb2.5.1-3.xkb apl-gen-xkb2.5.1-3.xkm
>>
>> Unfortunately it doesn't seem to round-trip byte-identically when
>> you do that, but it may not matter functionally.
>>
>>> What concerns me more is that rightAlt and Shift-rightAlt produce the
>>> same
>>> character.
>>
>>
>> Well, they produce different characters on my system with the newer
>> version...
>>
>> eeeEEE∊∊∊⍷⍷⍷
>>
>>
>>
>> [1]
>> setxkbmap -layout 'us,apl(sax)' -option 'grp:switch' -option
>> 'grp_led:scroll' -print | xkbcomp - apl-gen-xkb2.5.1-3.xkm
>
>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2013-10-28 17:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2013-10-12 4:48 APL mode Rustom Mody
2013-10-12 7:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-10-12 14:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-12 16:09 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-12 19:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13 6:45 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-13 6:59 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-13 11:10 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-13 14:04 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-13 15:35 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-13 16:11 ` Ivan Andrus
2013-10-13 12:42 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-10-13 14:47 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-13 15:24 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-10-14 5:00 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-14 6:45 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-14 13:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-14 8:21 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-14 11:08 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-17 18:54 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-17 19:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-20 13:57 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-21 10:46 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-21 13:03 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-25 19:09 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 1:40 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-26 4:38 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 10:35 ` Juergen Sauermann
2013-10-26 11:42 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 15:40 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-26 16:48 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 17:41 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 17:48 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-27 5:08 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-27 22:41 ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-28 4:09 ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-28 12:21 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-28 12:40 ` Juergen Sauermann
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2013-10-28 17:42 ` Rustom Mody [this message]
2013-10-28 19:45 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-18 7:06 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-14 10:40 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-10-14 17:03 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-14 19:48 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-15 3:15 ` Rustom Mody
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2013-10-12 5:01 Rustom Mody
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