From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Rustom Mody Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs rewrite in a maintainable language Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 08:06:16 +0530 Message-ID: References: <561A19AB.5060001@cumego.com> <87io6dl0h0.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83vbadp69k.fsf@gnu.org> <87egh1kx83.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1444703812 17267 80.91.229.3 (13 Oct 2015 02:36:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 13 Oct 2015 02:36:52 +0000 (UTC) To: emacs-devel Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 13 04:36:51 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlpSM-0004bV-0p for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 13 Oct 2015 04:36:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60026 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlpSK-00057K-Uv for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:36:48 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43151) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlpSA-00057F-7C for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:36:39 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlpS9-00084c-8G for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:36:38 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x235.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::235]:38038) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZlpS9-00084V-2g for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 22:36:37 -0400 Original-Received: by wieq12 with SMTP id q12so9509962wie.1 for ; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :content-type; bh=JlV5ttOtnvDoAL5Yp5vaGod80Ur+paz8vUEBxg/kits=; b=oAS8uaR4mBxlPjZvq2vWAwtmDe3qAQNh9PoltqybAOdT7kTAf08BUkaS5/4Nkc9riV bzSF6BLXvX22k7OR9GT3KisKUgrYVnxQ8J8bSwNMdDjIVzfIolvElukf1BFCTdxLRN/h HJ13fhztTPKrK3nq/d4cbvuOysjMeRTQgXQEKzc9/qC40PckHZ8ZzqaTcY2Tzq1ICMBy NESkhAfmAsYGzbkIr873J8kBffl6GCpzjkZizI3AWllzZp+oJxEst1fPem/M/UnGMT9c FsYrBA6wXaaEP1LXP9Vgkn/UdKv6YJMX9x0feeo3WoAL8F2x9to1iOhB3/MMT/5ZrpPf zmhA== X-Received: by 10.180.90.37 with SMTP id bt5mr3224411wib.7.1444703796267; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.27.75.10 with HTTP; Mon, 12 Oct 2015 19:36:16 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:191422 Archived-At: On Tue, Oct 13, 2015 at 1:30 AM, Richard Stallman wrote: > > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > I don't think we should rewrite Emacs into anything other than C. > It would not be an improvement. > > Some parts of the Emacs C code could use rewriting -- for instance, > the parts that deal with management of X windows. But there is no need > to change to a different language. > When the rewrite bug is going round this is required reading http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html On a personal note (its about 1989 so my memory is foggy...): The FSF tape carrying gcc etc had just arrived and a colleague was struggling to compile it on a local C compiler I wrote to RIchard something to the effect: How could someone intelligent enough to write emacs (in lisp) write gcc (in C)? Note 1: Since my memory of these near 3-decade old things are so foggy, I'm sure Richard does not remember Note 2: Wisdom being directly proportional to age, I dont have that question now