* devanagari diacritics
@ 2013-10-23 3:12 Rustom Mody
2013-10-23 12:22 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-23 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rustom Mody @ 2013-10-23 3:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: emacs-devel
There have been a couple of independent questions on help.gnu.emacs
for typing devanagari-as-diacritics in the last couple of weeks.
Emacs as of now comes with a couple of devanagari modes for typing
devanagari but not romanized diacritics for devanagari.
Firstly, does something like this exist?
In any case, I came up with the following:
There is one thing I dont know how to do -- how do you make an rule
that expands to more than one character. For example we may want "c"
to expand to "ch"
-----------------------
(require 'quail)
(quail-define-package
"devanagari-diacritic" "UTF-8" "अ" t
"Example diacritic
" nil t t nil t nil nil nil nil nil t)
;; no much idea what all these nil/t's are
;; just copied it from something David de la Harpe Golden wrote
(defvar devanagari-map
'(("A" ?ā)
("I" ?ī)
("U" ?ū)
("~N" ?ṅ)
("~n" ?ñ)
("N" ?ṇ)
("T" ?ṭ)
("D" ?ḍ)
("sh" ?ś)
("Sh" ?ṣ)
))
(defun quail-block-defrules (kb quail-package)
(dolist (key-trans devanagari-map)
(let ((key (car key-trans))
(trans (cadr key-trans)))
(quail-defrule key trans quail-package))))
(quail-block-defrules devanagari-map "devanagari-diacritic")
-----------
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* Re: devanagari diacritics
2013-10-23 3:12 devanagari diacritics Rustom Mody
@ 2013-10-23 12:22 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-23 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: David De La Harpe Golden @ 2013-10-23 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rustom Mody; +Cc: emacs-devel
On 23/10/13 04:12, Rustom Mody wrote:
> There is one thing I dont know how to do -- how do you make an rule
> that expands to more than one character. For example we may want "c"
> to expand to "ch"
apl-kb.el actually already included things expanding into more than one
character in the apl-kb-postfix variant, as it's how the way e.g. x/ ->
⊃ but x// -> x/
(Aaand I just spotted a typo/bug in the version I sent, "?//" should go
to "?/" obviously)
Which was just lifted from latin-post.el which works the same way.
> no much idea what all these nil/t's are
They are described in relevant docstring after all, just hit
C-h f quail-define-package
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* Re: devanagari diacritics
2013-10-23 3:12 devanagari diacritics Rustom Mody
2013-10-23 12:22 ` David De La Harpe Golden
@ 2013-10-23 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 14:05 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-28 13:21 ` Rustom Mody
1 sibling, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-10-23 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rustom Mody; +Cc: emacs-devel
> '(("A" ?ā)
C-u C-\ TeX RET, then put cursor on the ā character, then C-u C-x =
will tell you that \=a lets you input this char.
Stefan
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* Re: devanagari diacritics
2013-10-23 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-10-23 14:05 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-23 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-28 13:21 ` Rustom Mody
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rustom Mody @ 2013-10-23 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> '(("A" ?ā)
>
> C-u C-\ TeX RET,
Yeah I know about the tex input method
> then put cursor on the ā character, then C-u C-x =
So I learn the keyboard version of M-x describe-char -- thanks :-)
> will tell you that \=a lets you input this char.
Ok... but I am not sure what point you are making.
This input method is for someone who needs to type out a significant
amount of devanagari.
In particular I am attempting to replicate the emacs input method
devanagari-itrans
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITRANS
The current devanagari-itrans converts itrans input into devanagari proper
This input method would convert itrans into romanized diacritics.
In any case, my current version (after David's last input) stands at this:
----------------
(require 'quail)
(quail-define-package
"devanagari-diacritic" "UTF-8" "अ" t
"Example diacritic
" nil t t nil t nil nil nil nil nil t)
;; that last line copied it from something David de la Harpe Golden wrote
(defvar devanagari-map
'(("A" ?ā)
("I" ?ī)
("U" ?ū)
;("RRi" ?ṛ) ; or should it be the following?
("RRi" ["r̥"]) ; see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_15919#Comparison_with_UNRSGN_and_IAST
("LLi" ?ḷ)
("c" ["ch"])
("~N" ?ṅ)
("~n" ?ñ)
("N" ?ṇ)
("T" ?ṭ)
("D" ?ḍ)
("sh" ?ś)
("Sh" ?ṣ)
)
"The basic sructure for converting Itrans devanagari into diacritics
Many details to be filled in after consulting experts
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ITRANS
"
)
;; an 'interpreter' for the above
;; Surely such function must exist somewhere??
(defun quail-block-defrules (quail-map quail-package)
(dolist (key-trans quail-map)
(let ((key (car key-trans))
(trans (cadr key-trans)))
(quail-defrule key trans quail-package))))
(quail-block-defrules devanagari-map "devanagari-diacritic")
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* Re: devanagari diacritics
2013-10-23 14:05 ` Rustom Mody
@ 2013-10-23 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-24 2:36 ` Rustom Mody
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-10-23 18:27 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rustom Mody; +Cc: emacs-devel
>> will tell you that \=a lets you input this char.
> Ok... but I am not sure what point you are making.
Just that there is an input method that lets you input those chars.
> This input method is for someone who needs to type out a significant
> amount of devanagari.
Of course, I had no intention to say that TeX is the best method for
those chars.
Stefan
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* Re: devanagari diacritics
2013-10-23 18:27 ` Stefan Monnier
@ 2013-10-24 2:36 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-24 3:36 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rustom Mody @ 2013-10-24 2:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 11:57 PM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>>> will tell you that \=a lets you input this char.
>> Ok... but I am not sure what point you are making.
>
> Just that there is an input method that lets you input those chars.
>
>> This input method is for someone who needs to type out a significant
>> amount of devanagari.
>
> Of course, I had no intention to say that TeX is the best method for
> those chars.
Thanks for the tip -- did not know of this 'backwards' way of using an
input method:
paste a char and then inquire how to input it
There's one thing I dont find -- the input method definition.
With a function or a mode or a key we can ask and be taken to the definition(s).
With an input method I cant seem to find a way
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* Re: devanagari diacritics
2013-10-23 13:42 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-23 14:05 ` Rustom Mody
@ 2013-10-28 13:21 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-28 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Rustom Mody @ 2013-10-28 13:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Stefan Monnier; +Cc: emacs-devel
On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 7:12 PM, Stefan Monnier
<monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> wrote:
>> '(("A" ?ā)
>
> C-u C-\ TeX RET, then put cursor on the ā character, then C-u C-x =
> will tell you that \=a lets you input this char.
>
>
> Stefan
Heres some strange behavior
1. I type the letter ī into a buffer
2. Type C-u C-x =.
emacs tells me its LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH MACRON
3. start tex input mode
4. C-u C-x =
Its still LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH MACRON
And furthermore
to input: type "\={i}" or "\={\i}" or "\=i" with TeX input method
So then I try \=i
I get ӣ
which is
name: CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH MACRON
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* Re: devanagari diacritics
2013-10-28 13:21 ` Rustom Mody
@ 2013-10-28 14:47 ` Stefan Monnier
0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2013-10-28 14:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Rustom Mody; +Cc: emacs-devel
> Heres some strange behavior
> 1. I type the letter ī into a buffer
> 2. Type C-u C-x =.
> emacs tells me its LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH MACRON
> 3. start tex input mode
> 4. C-u C-x =
> Its still LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH MACRON
> And furthermore
> to input: type "\={i}" or "\={\i}" or "\=i" with TeX input method
> So then I try \=i
> I get ӣ
> which is
> name: CYRILLIC SMALL LETTER I WITH MACRON
Sounds like a bug I fixed in ltx-latin.el a few months ago (IIRC it's
a new bug in 24.3, fixed in trunk).
Stefan
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