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From: Rustom Mody <rustompmody@gmail.com>
To: David De La Harpe Golden <david@harpegolden.net>
Cc: emacs-devel <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: APL mode
Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2013 08:45:43 +0530	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAJ+Teod1Xq71dV7hn5rBXvGkK6Qp+JuB=6vH8Y0of0-DTokLsQ@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <525C23F7.40903@harpegolden.net>

On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:33 PM, David De La Harpe Golden
<david@harpegolden.net> wrote:
> On 12/10/13 05:48, Rustom Mody wrote:
>> Is anyone working on this??

> No Free APL for ages than 3 come along at once, etc. (well, A+ has
> been free for a fairly long time))

Another: see https://github.com/dlaurie/lua-apl
So 4 (at least)

>
> FWIW, for completeness, I can think of some other related work: A+ (another
> APL derived language, also GPL*) has long bundled an XEmacs mode for A+ in
> its source tarball.  However, you may well be better off going your own way,
> IIRC it doesn't really adhere to emacsy conventions
> and I don't think it was GNU Emacs compatible anyway.
>
> http://www.aplusdev.org/APlusRefV2_52.html#HEADING605

Years ago I got APlus working with Xemacs (its clearly stated: not
compatible with gnu-emacs)
Then it stopped working (with xemacs that is -- some X issues?) and so
I hacked up something to make it work with gnu-emacs.
My work-in-progress page: http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AplInDebian

FWIW recently Xemacs is getting so bitrotten that debian has
unfortunately removed it:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=670292
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=725883

This does not mean it is unavailable or uninstallable but just much harder.
Multiply that by
- APlus is also getting obsolescent
- most people (in 2013) know little/nothing about APL
and clearly the barriers to entry (on the APlus-avenue) are only increasing.

Note for a super-ace programmer (which means not me!) all these
different APLs could be supported under one umbrella in (gnu)emacs.
This entails:
1. Completing a unicode-based set of modes for Apl and inferior Apl
2. Making an latin-ish encoding for APlus
3. Having some configuation flags so that the base unicode encoding
can be converted if necessary on file-saving/process-sending
[My WIP http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AplInDebian basically tries to
do this but without making a new latin-ish encoding -- needless to say
it works sometimes and fails many times :-) ]

So... APL seems to be making a mini resurgence.
Anyone wanting to give a helping hand in putting emacs into the
picture will be gratefully accepted :-)

Rusi
-- 
http://www.the-magus.in
http://blog.languager.org



  parent reply	other threads:[~2013-10-15  3:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2013-10-12  4:48 APL mode Rustom Mody
2013-10-12  7:25 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
2013-10-12 14:26 ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-12 16:09   ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-12 19:08     ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-13  6:45     ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-13  6:59       ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-13 11:10         ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-13 14:04           ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-13 15:35             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-13 16:11             ` Ivan Andrus
2013-10-13 12:42 ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-10-13 14:47   ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-13 15:24     ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-10-14  5:00       ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-14  6:45         ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-14 13:34           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-14  8:21         ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-14 11:08           ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-17 18:54             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-17 19:26               ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-20 13:57                 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-21 10:46                   ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-21 13:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-25 19:09                     ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26  1:40                       ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-26  4:38                         ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 10:35                           ` Juergen Sauermann
2013-10-26 11:42                             ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 15:40                             ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-26 16:48                               ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 17:41                                 ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-26 17:48                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-27  5:08                           ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-27 22:41                             ` Xue Fuqiao
2013-10-28  4:09                             ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2013-10-28 12:21                               ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-28 12:40                                 ` Juergen Sauermann
     [not found]                                   ` <CAJ+Teofv_2bHhdAvxsVRY8EYLQO6ERZ_zbAWh0FLQnUMndcfSg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                     ` <526E669E.60501@t-online.de>
     [not found]                                       ` <CAJ+TeofjYsy4eLDr=aM3Vo36=76zipbn7HmXcm59YNwkgLoaSg@mail.gmail.com>
     [not found]                                         ` <526E7EC3.3050305@t-online.de>
     [not found]                                           ` <526E967F.3010903@harpegolden.net>
     [not found]                                             ` <526E9DCE.8080504@t-online.de>
2013-10-28 17:42                                               ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-28 19:45                                                 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-18  7:06               ` Rustom Mody
2013-10-14 10:40         ` Rüdiger Sonderfeld
2013-10-14 17:03 ` David De La Harpe Golden
2013-10-14 19:48   ` Stefan Monnier
2013-10-15  3:15   ` Rustom Mody [this message]
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2013-10-12  5:01 Rustom Mody

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