From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aaron Jensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 17:47:51 -0500 Message-ID: References: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@gmail.com> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40368"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, eggert@cs.ucla.edu, 60220@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Dec 29 23:49:50 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pB1ig-000AK8-Be for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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Your crashes always happen after restarting, right? > You don't see crashes inside dlopen if you never restart, correct? > > But yes, it could be something related. My production session has 260 > *.eln files loaded, for example. So if macOS 13 has problems with > loading many shared libraries, maybe this is one of the symptoms. I can't say that with 100% certainty. Sometimes the crashes are hours after I started Emacs and I don't know if I had ever restarted that session. I do seem to be crashing a lot less frequently after the signal patch, which is probably just a coincidence, but who knows. Aaron