From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Aaron Jensen Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#60220: 29.0.60; macOS 13.1 crash shortly after starting Emacs Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2022 19:03:47 -0500 Message-ID: References: <24A595DF-81D8-47E7-90BC-FCDDB27315E8@gmail.com> <83ilhz2r14.fsf@gnu.org> <83r0wl0z6g.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5753"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: gerd.moellmann@gmail.com, Eli Zaretskii , 60220@debbugs.gnu.org To: Paul Eggert Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 30 01:15:29 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1pB33Y-0001N0-Sd for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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That > > is, while something is being dynamically linked, a SIGALRM or equivalent > > arrives, some idle timer code is run, and the dynamic linker is invoked > > before the outer linker finishes? I imagine that might put some dynamic > > linkers into a tizzy. > > > I have no idea, would we see that in the trace at all? Here are two > more crashes: https://gist.github.com/aaronjensen/f7c46857ea93c858f46a639d8880f290 > > I have been able to reproduce it just now pretty easily, but I still > can't reproduce it with the debugger attached. Would it make sense to use block_atimers while loading native lisp? If that's a workable thing and you can send me a patch I can try it out. Thanks, Aaron