From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tim Visher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: CSP for Elisp? Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:00:37 -0400 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1377284487 31835 80.91.229.3 (23 Aug 2013 19:01:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Aug 2013 19:01:27 +0000 (UTC) Cc: emacs To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Aug 23 21:01:31 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VCwbz-0003p6-66 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 21:01:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:38316 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCwby-000722-O6 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:01:30 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:43115) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCwbo-00071k-Ax for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:01:21 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCwbm-0008HF-SZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:01:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vc0-x22b.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b]:51109) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VCwbm-0008HB-NZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 15:01:18 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id ij15so718597vcb.30 for ; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=motbht+eqa0wc3Q8c/pyHtO7eS7Jmb4av4g+DnEQWq0=; b=HJCOKe/L1I59ORp/QDOvvml8Aj79W4GuTJWgIBUyeyRXshMr9Sg9HH01lwquPzjFUA SKgCHBaWuW1drrwq5E8CaHaN3CfeHq5n9Sp8olzBtUKwppzK3JBwCylVFEOV5rF0JXYc I1kYBN/ZBVavVbYLfvzl00R2P0u3RlsqrhtYfFgHunD+Z++FCOROG4SceLn6lhZG0io2 I30BNKDOdVJTZSBCW4P4eqCTdaLLS0nYL98EzPqREzuyFCcda0VvrT3Jg5wgyVcgK30R Mmgym9jARn/BbnJoFkcpzxqTc64adVqHVRRxSg+9JkCQWAfKywhxJQqRtru8jc3DLjHb zvPQ== X-Received: by 10.52.35.98 with SMTP id g2mr644340vdj.0.1377284477886; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.221.54.129 with HTTP; Fri, 23 Aug 2013 12:00:37 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93065 Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 22, 2013 at 8:57 PM, Stefan Monnier wrote: >> Just to be sure that we're both talking about the same thing, I'm >> referring to ['concurrency', not 'parallelism'][pike]. > > Yes, definitely concurrency. > > My understanding is that cooperative threading could be in Emacs-25, if > a few people put enough work into it. There was a proof-of-concept > "working" a couple years ago (IIUC Gnus could run in its own thread). > > For true concurrency in Elisp you might have to wait for Emacs-30. > Tho you might get true concurrency in Emacs sooner if we switch > to Guile. Awesome. I can't necessarily say that I'll be able to help at all but I'll certainly check out that branch. Are there design docs or discussions floating around anywhere? -- In Christ, Timmy V. http://blog.twonegatives.com/ http://five.sentenc.es/ -- Spend less time on mail