bug#22040: 25.1.50; C-h c is not useful with many magit keys

bug#22040: 25.1.50; C-h c is not useful with many magit keys

[Eric Hanchrow]

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I ran magit-status, then got a log buffer by typing l l, then wanted to
explore the various ways of showing diffs.  I typed C-h c d, and saw "d
runs the command magit-diff-popup" in the echo area; then I typed d, saw
the popup, and again typed C-h c d.  I was hoping to see something like
"d runs the command magit-diff-dwim".  But instead I saw "d runs the
command magit-invoke-popup-action".  The same message appears with the
various other diff keys.

This makes it a little hard to explore those various options.  In order
to learn about them, I have to either invoke each, and guess what it's
doing; or read the manual; it'd be more convenient if C-h c would tell
me the names of the elisp functions that the various keys run.



In GNU Emacs 25.1.50.2 (x86_64-apple-darwin15.0.0, NS appkit-1404.13
Version 10.11.1 (Build 15B42))
 of 2015-11-25
Repository revision: c334674695ab6c2691e29ae0d6a2993eae1414a3
Windowing system distributor 'Apple', version 10.3.1404
Configured features:
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Important settings:
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Major mode: MagitPopup

Minor modes in effect:
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Recent messages:
(No buffers need to be reverted)
Reverting (up to) 7 file-visiting buffer(s)...
(No buffers need to be reverted)
Type C-h i to view popup manual, ? to describe an argument or action. [2
times]
Mark set
Type C-h i to view popup manual, ? to describe an argument or action.
Quit
d runs the command magit-diff-popup
Type C-h i to view popup manual, ? to describe an argument or action.
d runs the command magit-invoke-popup-action

Load-path shadows:
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bug#22040: 25.1.50; C-h c is not useful with many magit keys

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Eric Hanchrow <eric.hanchrow@gmail.com>
> Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:22:57 +0000
> 
> I ran magit-status, then got a log buffer by typing l l, then wanted to
> explore the various ways of showing diffs. I typed C-h c d, and saw "d
> runs the command magit-diff-popup" in the echo area; then I typed d, saw
> the popup, and again typed C-h c d. I was hoping to see something like
> "d runs the command magit-diff-dwim". But instead I saw "d runs the
> command magit-invoke-popup-action". The same message appears with the
> various other diff keys.
> 
> This makes it a little hard to explore those various options. In order
> to learn about them, I have to either invoke each, and guess what it's
> doing; or read the manual; it'd be more convenient if C-h c would tell
> me the names of the elisp functions that the various keys run.

Magit is neither in Emacs nor on ELPA.  Are you sure this is a problem
with some core Emacs functionality (if so, which one?) and not with
magit itself?

bug#22040: 25.1.50; C-h c is not useful with many magit keys

[Eric Hanchrow]

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Good point; I'm so used to using it that I forgot that it wasn't officially
part of emacs.  I'll open the bug on magit's github page.  Thanks.

On Sat, Nov 28, 2015 at 10:49 AM Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:

> > From: Eric Hanchrow <eric.hanchrow@gmail.com>
> > Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2015 18:22:57 +0000
> >
> > I ran magit-status, then got a log buffer by typing l l, then wanted to
> > explore the various ways of showing diffs. I typed C-h c d, and saw "d
> > runs the command magit-diff-popup" in the echo area; then I typed d, saw
> > the popup, and again typed C-h c d. I was hoping to see something like
> > "d runs the command magit-diff-dwim". But instead I saw "d runs the
> > command magit-invoke-popup-action". The same message appears with the
> > various other diff keys.
> >
> > This makes it a little hard to explore those various options. In order
> > to learn about them, I have to either invoke each, and guess what it's
> > doing; or read the manual; it'd be more convenient if C-h c would tell
> > me the names of the elisp functions that the various keys run.
>
> Magit is neither in Emacs nor on ELPA.  Are you sure this is a problem
> with some core Emacs functionality (if so, which one?) and not with
> magit itself?
>

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bug#22040: 25.1.50; C-h c is not useful with many magit keys

[Artur Malabarba]

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Closing this then.

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