From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Setting the value of `emacs-bzr-version' also from a git checkout Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:16:59 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87a9is6g2a.fsf@igel.home> <87pprokewg.fsf@wanadoo.es> <83iox2rd75.fsf@gnu.org> <87bo2uhie3.fsf@wanadoo.es> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381576624 9455 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2013 11:17:04 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:17:04 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Eli Zaretskii , Stefan Monnier , Emacs development discussions To: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=D3scar_Fuentes?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 12 13:17:09 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUxC0-0001O5-An for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 13:17:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57783 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUxBz-0007sh-KX for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:17:07 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:56524) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUxBv-0007sc-UR for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:17:05 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUxBu-0002He-Qa for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:17:03 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lb0-x22d.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c04::22d]:57454) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUxBs-0002H5-Pv; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 07:17:00 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lb0-f173.google.com with SMTP id o14so4308361lbi.32 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 04:16:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=6R0SPDdOYITEcV7xklisrwIqNVjf8RfdW8YH9LWFQoE=; b=Anl5qkW0bq4EYJj6hIjyV3rtE/O8D6aRd2Osn+MYRShGagbBGg9GTfR+35rhCdKfSf /CRNv6UCOmBaCu5vYdj4qK1dyyf2FPRRRDZq2SC4g1rfz743vN3MDyJXEROOga5gu7CI q9OyhbSFDENE+bHLTvViGbmATBi2uAXSYSGD/gs9WLjCQuATN75ukNqRYKunlONYntGS MzQNQUvvfONVcZrIDDU0ZZLUGzeNH7PclCb7VEFmqBBJ0hK34oyYWGJUZiDFPwKD/44s CPxm7KBj/9UANnRhMQsQgzA7wvYqcMFCSv8+GPbBr5QuBBPv4f2eS6VLbVaH8TF7zVjI 7m/g== X-Received: by 10.152.45.106 with SMTP id l10mr21002648lam.12.1381576619444; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 04:16:59 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.176.231 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 04:16:59 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bo2uhie3.fsf@wanadoo.es> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c04::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164141 Archived-At: >>> IOW, the revision-id is enough to unequivocally identify the revision >>> in any given branch. >> >> Of course, but that would require the user to have bzr installed, just >> to get the revnos from the revids. That would be too bad, and can be >> easily avoided just by including the revnos in the git notes. > > Why is the *user* interested on getting the revno? For bug reporting, > the revid is perfectly valid (and, as stated before, it is more precise > than the revno.) (I think I didn't answer to your question in my previous reply. Sorry.) Many people prefer to use revnos while reporting bugs or discussing changes (this mailing list is the clearest example). I was even asked to include that revnos in the binaries I publish, see: http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/help-gnu-emacs/2013-10/msg00002.html So, even though the bzr revision IDs are unambiguous, (most) humans prefer to use the revision numbers. -- Dani Moncayo