From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Dani Moncayo Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Drop-down menus, popup menus, and popup dialogs supported on TTYs Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:34:10 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83r4brr7jk.fsf@gnu.org> <20131012.094942.227388769228804.yamato@redhat.com> <83k3hjq7do.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381570457 17717 80.91.229.3 (12 Oct 2013 09:34:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2013 09:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs development discussions , Masatake YAMATO , Stefan Monnier To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Oct 12 11:34:19 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VUvaU-000534-DZ for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 11:34:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57488 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUvaT-0001Ql-UI for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:34:17 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:59941) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUvaQ-0001Qg-Q5 for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:34:15 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUvaP-0003vU-Vx for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:34:14 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-la0-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4010:c03::230]:41594) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VUvaO-0003v3-1T; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 05:34:12 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-la0-f48.google.com with SMTP id er20so4245157lab.35 for ; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:34:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=V7D4ejHuAkyi7LCZot+MuGDxOuY05mB7CtPLB1tBK4c=; b=Tz537TtzHkMLNXVV+DboTb3WPTMvp4elRVUkkL+QYVVu6+uOCdzaMYfWMfMdWlW1d6 IYIBR37H0YKwqJhHb2Qlcq8IbH7qcY9B276WHqt6GA93dWtvyUbtjFa90oxVMLfX+0mC xcj4PoxJZJcARD3JXkIszDv+8N1jdyfDr4+cyhVSHl7I4d0mDd2rT7TXXpkt2LIxoT15 CNELisei3xtrWyHRLQgGJfsqSBf/0OwDLGftEyCDX5AThqTy6QXm8NW/zaA1NK7ul8fz l/ppKS/5QShEZlsWvc497242cdeW7DtaVxdz2QzWeMuAUO6U6TnRl0SttXAd88g5w2fU GjZA== X-Received: by 10.152.87.143 with SMTP id ay15mr20465808lab.2.1381570450657; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:34:10 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.114.176.231 with HTTP; Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:34:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83k3hjq7do.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:4010:c03::230 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:164132 Archived-At: >> Eli, in my interpretation, you don't object to introduce on-demand >> drop-down menu. However, you yourself doen't want it. Right? > > I always run with the menu bar enabled, so I wouldn't know what are > the expectations of people who do otherwise. I do otherwise. See my expectations below. > I don't object to > dropping menus by F10 even if the menu bar is not shown, provided it > is done for GUI sessions as well, for consistency, not just for > text-mode sessions. Agreed. IMO, typing F10 in that case (GUI session with menu-bar-mode off) should temporarily show the drop-down menu (which currently can only be the toolkit menu, but in the future we might have a second option: drop-down text menu). > Note that, at least for the TTY case, this > _requires_ to enable menu-bar-mode first, and disable it after the > user selects a menu item. Exactly. That's the behavior I'd like. -- Dani Moncayo