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On 5/25/19, help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org wrote: > Send help-gnu-emacs mailing list submissions to > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > help-gnu-emacs-request@gnu.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > help-gnu-emacs-owner@gnu.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of help-gnu-emacs digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces (Van L) > 2. input to interactive M: key from text at point (was: > help-gnu-emacs Digest, Vol 198, Issue 83) (Van L) > 3. Re: Is Elisp really that slow? (Robert Thorpe) > 4. Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail > mailing list bounces) (tomas@tuxteam.de) > 5. Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces (tomas@tuxteam.de) > 6. Re: the future of the computer world (Stefan Monnier) > 7. Re: Newbie with Gnus and posteo email setup (Tomas Nordin) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 19:17:48 +1000 > From: Van L > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > writes: > >>> > Since they can't kill it directly, they >>> > starve it. Spam (and the corresponding >>> > anti-spam measures) are their allies in that. >>> >>> Tin foil hats on everyone :) >> >> Sometimes they are justified. Remember: just because >> you're paranoid it doesn't mean that they aren't after >> you :) > > The term of art is to jump the shark when it suddenly inevitably must > appear. > > -- > ? 2019 Van L > gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183 251E 9830 384E 9683 B835 > "I don't believe any anything that the media say." - Ali > Abdelaziz > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 19:46:18 +1000 > From: Van L > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: input to interactive M: key from text at point (was: > help-gnu-emacs Digest, Vol 198, Issue 83) > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > Budi writes: > >> How to hook string/word at point to be as input interactive M-: key, >> i.e. prompting Eval: on minibuffer ? > > Guessing that you have text you want to evaluate as elisp, try the > following. > > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > C-h f eval-region > --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8--- > > What I do is select a region of elisp text and M-x eval-region. > > Hope that helps. > > -- > ? 2019 Van L > gpg using EEF2 37E9 3840 0D5D 9183 251E 9830 384E 9683 B835 > "I don't believe any anything that the media say." - Ali > Abdelaziz > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:54:04 +0100 > From: Robert Thorpe > To: Stefan Huchler > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Is Elisp really that slow? > Message-ID: <874l5ipzxv.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> > Content-Type: text/plain > > Stefan Huchler writes: >> >> Does that make sense? > > I think it does. So, there will be no timeout. Instead Ctrl is sticky > until the next key is pressed, but not after that. I could see that > working. > > BR, > Robert Thorpe > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:54:53 +0200 > From: > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: the future of the computer world (was: Re: Google Gmail > mailing list bounces) > Message-ID: <20190525115453.GB12528@tuxteam.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 10:03:03AM +0200, Emanuel Berg via help-gnu-emacs > wrote: >> tomas wrote: >> >> >> ?#2: What do you mean "all the anti-patterns >> >> of the pre-Internet age emerge all over >> >> again." It sounds interesting anyway so do >> >> tell... >> > >> > You had a fragmented landscape of "online >> > services" [...] > >> Oh, no! That can't happen! I remember years ago >> writing many times about the future all >> interface-independent use of computer services. >> Everyone could use everything, with their own >> client(s) [...] > > Facebook bought whatsapp for $16 billion (that is 16 * 10^9 dollars). > How do you think they are going to monetize it? By letting their users > change providers painlessly? > > Likewise they bought instagram for $1 billion. They are /betting their > farm/ on closed platforms. What do you think their shareholders think > about e-mail? > > There's a huge financial incentive in poisoning the well (aka "open > platforms") to sell bottled water. > > Cheers > -- tom?s > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 13:56:00 +0200 > From: > To: Van L > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Google Gmail mailing list bounces > Message-ID: <20190525115600.GC12528@tuxteam.de> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 07:17:48PM +1000, Van L wrote: > > [...] > >> >> Tin foil hats on everyone :) >> > >> > Sometimes they are justified [...] >> >> The term of art is to jump the shark when it suddenly inevitably must >> appear. > > <;-) > > Cheers > -- t > -------------- next part -------------- > A non-text attachment was scrubbed... > Name: signature.asc > Type: application/pgp-signature > Size: 198 bytes > Desc: Digital signature > URL: > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 11:18:52 -0400 > From: Stefan Monnier > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: the future of the computer world > Message-ID: > Content-Type: text/plain > >> You're saying this is not only incorrect, but the _opposite_ >> is happening? > > No he's just saying that this future has come and gone already. > > > Stefan > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 17:31:23 +0200 > From: Tomas Nordin > To: oury.dustin@posteo.net > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Newbie with Gnus and posteo email setup > Message-ID: > <87mujamtys.fsf@fliptop.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> > > Content-Type: text/plain > > oury.dustin@posteo.net writes: > >> I got it figured out a few days ago. But for now I may have to go slow >> and learn how to configure gnus while using the webmail interface as I >> go. >> >> Doing (setq gnus-select-method '(nnimap "posteo.de")) was the answer I >> needed! Everything else can probably be learned by RTFM > > Alright! Good luck with the Gnus stuff, it seems to be THE thing for > some people. > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > help-gnu-emacs mailing list > help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > https://lists.gnu.org/mailman/listinfo/help-gnu-emacs > > > ------------------------------ > > End of help-gnu-emacs Digest, Vol 198, Issue 87 > *********************************************** >