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From: Paul Michael Reilly <pmr@pajato.com>
To: rms@gnu.org
Cc: emacs-devel@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Emacs Webapp/Plugin
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 07:11:55 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGwjgEg-vOH5NdLJ=j6KDstojJOOwncF3qC6KwVA5qFoJzynMA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <E1Sv7Ws-0004Q2-Tj@fencepost.gnu.org>

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On Sat, Jul 28, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Richard Stallman <rms@gnu.org> wrote:

>     Someone tell me again why it is a bad idea to develop a Chrome/Chromium
>     (browser or Chrome OS) plugin that is essentially just the basic Emacs
> bits
>     that we know and love?
>
> For one thing, I am concerned people might use it in Chrome, which is
> nonfree software with a universal back door.  If that caught on, it
> would be a disaster in terms of our primary goal: giving users
> freedom.
>

People use Emacs every day on Windows, which is nonfree software with a
universal back door AND a malevolent management team antithetical to users
freedom.


>     The underlying premise is that there are no "desktop" apps available on
>     this imagined system, just web apps and browser plugins.
>
> That IS a disaster, in terms of users' freedom.  It pushes users
> into total dependence on servers.  We must oppose it, not accept it.
>

We've had this conversation before.  I neither oppose not accept dependence
on servers in general but use my own servers and encourage the development
of server based communities where users' freedoms are embraced and
preserved.

The mobile computing paradigm, small computing devices that act as clients
to data on servers, is a fact of life for the foreseeable future, as is
giant companies which span the gamut from Masters of Evil
(Microsoft/Apple/Facebook, imho) to not so evil (Google).  Unfortunately,
"not so evil" is probably as good as it will ever get.

-pmr

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2012-07-29 11:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2012-07-27 16:47 Emacs Webapp/Plugin Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-27 18:13 ` joakim
2012-07-27 23:56 ` Jeremiah Dodds
2012-07-28  2:56   ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-28 21:26     ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 10:53       ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-07-29 15:21         ` Bastien
2012-07-29 16:14         ` William Gardella
2013-10-04 10:03         ` Alex Bennée
2013-10-04 15:39           ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-05 16:48             ` Richard Stallman
2013-10-06 18:59               ` Paul Michael Reilly
2013-10-07 13:36                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-28 13:58 ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-29  0:54   ` Miles Bader
2012-07-29 11:18     ` Paul Michael Reilly
2012-08-05 17:06     ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-08  5:19       ` William Gardella
2012-07-29 11:11   ` Paul Michael Reilly [this message]
2012-07-30  1:47     ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-30  2:34       ` Stephen J. Turnbull
2012-07-30  8:30         ` joakim
2012-07-31 22:32           ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:49             ` chad
2012-08-01  9:20               ` joakim
2012-08-01 22:42                 ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02  7:41                   ` joakim
2012-08-02 23:38                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:09                       ` joakim
2012-08-04  5:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-02 23:38                     ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-03 19:27                       ` joakim
2012-08-04  5:43                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04  8:13                           ` joakim
2012-08-04  2:43                       ` Jason Rumney
2012-08-05  0:04                         ` Richard Stallman
2012-07-31 22:32         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-04 10:06       ` Miles Bader
2012-08-04 13:01         ` Lennart Borgman
2012-08-04 15:38           ` Nix
2012-08-05  0:04         ` Richard Stallman
2012-08-05  0:31           ` Miles Bader
2012-08-05 21:01             ` Richard Stallman

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