From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Evgeny Roubinchtein Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.bugs Subject: bug#15539: comment Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 08:42:48 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87wqlqiayq.fsf@carifio.org> <9c71f3ab-6322-c7fd-b98d-28f27d6c51f1@campus.tu-berlin.de> <83mvhfln4d.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c074626036f450540790307 X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1478263405 1488 195.159.176.226 (4 Nov 2016 12:43:25 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 4 Nov 2016 12:43:25 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Max , 15539@debbugs.gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 04 13:43:21 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c2dpu-0006uy-VV for geb-bug-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; 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Fri, 04 Nov 2016 05:42:49 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.37.171.207 with HTTP; Fri, 4 Nov 2016 05:42:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83mvhfln4d.fsf@gnu.org> X-BeenThere: debbugs-submit@debbugs.gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.18 Precedence: list X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: GNU/Linux 2.2.x-3.x [generic] X-Received-From: 208.118.235.43 X-BeenThere: bug-gnu-emacs@gnu.org List-Id: "Bug reports for GNU Emacs, the Swiss army knife of text editors" List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: bug-gnu-emacs-bounces+geb-bug-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "bug-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.bugs:125338 Archived-At: --94eb2c074626036f450540790307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Just out of curiosity: is being compliant with the XDG Base Directory Specification out-of-the-box ( https://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html) currently viewed as a non-goal for Emacs? (The emphasis being on "out-of-the-box"). On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 3:28 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > From: Max > > Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:32:01 +0100 > > > > As an Emacs user I would like to kindly request you to reconsider this > bug. > > > > I think that the added complexity (look at the patch size, and even that > is more > > comments than code) is more than justified by the convenience it adds. > > The "complexity" mentioned in the discussion of this bug did not > allude to the size or complexity of the patch, it alluded to the > complexity this would add to Emacs and its development/maintenance: > where previously user-emacs-directory and the directory pointed to by > HOME in the environment were one and the same, now they will not be. > > I think if we want to revisit this issue, we should come up with the > use cases where this feature would be useful, and see if they are > important enough to justify the price. AFAIR, no use cases were > provided with the original request. > > Thanks. > > > > --94eb2c074626036f450540790307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just out of curiosity: is being compliant with the XDG Bas= e Directory Specification out-of-the-box (https://standards.freedeskt= op.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-0.6.html) currently viewed as a non-go= al for Emacs? =C2=A0(The emphasis being on "out-of-the-box").

On Fri, Nov 4, = 2016 at 3:28 AM, Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> wrote:
> From: Max <maxim.suraev@campus.tu-berlin.de>
> Date: Thu, 3 Nov 2016 23:32:01 +0100
>
> As an Emacs user I would like to kindly request you to reconsider this= bug.
>
> I think that the added complexity (look at the patch size, and even th= at is more
> comments than code) is more than justified by the convenience it adds.=

The "complexity" mentioned in the discussion of this bug d= id not
allude to the size or complexity of the patch, it alluded to the
complexity this would add to Emacs and its development/maintenance:
where previously user-emacs-directory and the directory pointed to by
HOME in the environment were one and the same, now they will not be.

I think if we want to revisit this issue, we should come up with the
use cases where this feature would be useful, and see if they are
important enough to justify the price.=C2=A0 AFAIR, no use cases were
provided with the original request.

Thanks.




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