From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongyi Zhao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Find the longest word in the word list file. Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2021 12:25:58 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87a6loarpi.fsf@zoho.eu> <875ywbz98q.fsf@zoho.eu> <87tujvxsff.fsf@zoho.eu> <87pmujxrbx.fsf@zoho.eu> <87lf57xq89.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="35328"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Aug 12 06:26:46 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mE2Io-000944-0c for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 06:26:46 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41638 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mE2Im-0007WU-6e for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 00:26:44 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46320) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mE2IH-0007W8-Lj for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 00:26:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lj1-x236.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::236]:36781) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mE2IG-0004OW-38 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2021 00:26:13 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lj1-x236.google.com with SMTP id y7so8550372ljp.3 for ; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 21:26:11 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Dw+j1uu5TYdH8HmwBivkpGoHRVg/LJOCUvAip6L9MPk=; b=dS861ZvFGGOYw6mTAjzrRy8GVlqPRYiQj3mwOw8odmFfK+nNfALwTQgJ3yxFXE9sUU 2joWO2NssWLNXuuu8G9DBqxDEl4ukg58GKsghOV1eDVX3P4LGBQhSkwZilOCagHOhHT9 YDjxN7ukvFT3R6uyOibcoU3V0W1t4vOrqRPx1UJbdyZA3/IiTPGjhSbxjB6rCbIjBYiy oJZqIKMdgTVaG1IrhGpi1GiwckRIACpaaAk4txT5kdnfBESNpyeA4OZx+37QOViQerGV 5kCG2VPw7+oCRM/63hCU2FzgjzFmOoaAo7yxpqPosKUS34yQwwF3dwBMwysYo/kYelj7 FfWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Dw+j1uu5TYdH8HmwBivkpGoHRVg/LJOCUvAip6L9MPk=; b=trlvXb9ldnwl4/Df82IJgqttPSuleUyMAW77Vo81U0M6edm897Co/51tOw549iifA/ sTHVA+gYFlzZ2IF7T4tuXRQS86tw3OW/K4nH4N3mVC0A3lnyfEJ9fIsSPIRhv1IZ4TsK WC9UkpP+Vg/rH1dJnCK0lHLlIBzz8s7nm799xM9qhbzQnvrJBPROx3uW36TPRWn48Vr8 DcNSwQW3OUc/ObIaM+SbbJJs/Mp9c/m3mK0Dd2MplX+kFfRl7yo0l6RsDytHRNNK2dJR cpzTmbLjePqNbOoc4Tfhs3n8uOxbOPInkqtJMJ7T3Dw9beMxsooI1HzcW46PBXhDbh8H xi4A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533XNHs6gkhHEmYgPseVxmRpHaqBCSZOSx4oyoIcqcOFccDprXMf uX2GbwBXt729AwQ8sk1kvCN8N2LCe5YzmuWKMrM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyMmqxqnONsU2z6vv3SCj1deqVPnPV16G6LEo/GRNbzKVT/+tXuFVzS+8C9bCgPdnZbnb2ms1FDPgnJZtYey3Q= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:983:: with SMTP id b3mr1454329ljq.287.1628742370247; Wed, 11 Aug 2021 21:26:10 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87lf57xq89.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::236; envelope-from=hongyi.zhao@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x236.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132471 Archived-At: On Thu, Aug 12, 2021 at 12:05 PM Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > > Hongyi Zhao wrote: > > > ``Greenspun's tenth rule'' says [1]: > > > > Any sufficiently complicated C or Fortran program contains > > an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow > > implementation of half of Common Lisp. > > There are many awesome programs written in C, Quake for > example, we have already mentioned Emacs and Linux but huge > parts of the Unix tool chain is in C. > > On the contrary programs written in Lisp isn't common anymore. > > It is thanks to Emacs not the least that it survives and > attracts new programmers at all. All in all, I think the intrinsic idea is the core. See here for the nine ideas embodied in lisp [1]. >From the ultimate point of view, any language is used to solve practical problems, so it is the most reasonable and objective to let the development of history as the final evaluation criterion. All these languages are not enemies, but friends. It is because of their cooperation that we can complete complex research and engineering projects. [1] http://www.paulgraham.com/diff.html Best, Hongyi