From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongyi Zhao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: common lisp vs elisp. Date: Sun, 20 Jun 2021 11:26:43 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87bl81kz3b.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="23433"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 20 05:27:20 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1luo7E-0005s9-J7 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 20 Jun 2021 05:27:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48532 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luo7D-0008SR-1O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 23:27:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:37248) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luo6s-0008SI-S7 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 23:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x129.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::129]:43005) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1luo6r-00057u-9T for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 23:26:58 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x129.google.com with SMTP id j2so23877637lfg.9 for ; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 20:26:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=UHYCu9ZpRk3HPTkol9/z2iaKbCtYCQmUMtUPOBuMcYU=; b=Sfyn19IbGP9QmluUpkP/D515BMDcXBbzR3puue/vdwq8f6jO9YTbuUON0eliwbyciq h8afekCKkh5261TQpekcyrx+pcTtw9cGBuZmEgn6Yx7QOfS/6lgvrlXDTiJC7t5RMNFv YiNHCcKVagBr5UlnJf5VvYi+D8bZPf0BMz/w3IlDs55Lc2uRAFBEr2qf53Mu09fF1pOf rn5EWbK0AzLrLeD4PTFGxwBqx+IST5iB0+mmC9u0vstigGcNysHl4UgCQVFYJ4Fn22JJ kE5JK0SUP9NZxwNV2zcVk8zsGPcPDjTSxLLOQI0SO2RxJq9cYl7K9Adj6Iai8Qiobo69 Syqw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=UHYCu9ZpRk3HPTkol9/z2iaKbCtYCQmUMtUPOBuMcYU=; b=KNVHkLq1yyt0dQ5B851DxUM9qXTLGbtRHbXPd32R5kLvucLvv/KINDiJsRMfDFDzpy jGFy2b9pnqegRpS4mSleJR6T6P0v/fZ7RCuCKn5MePr/6JdOAo/teTCVspTP/uDCcq1C 4iDXI/Ogq9eVvbu2eb1PCqPGIj/XXXPqqXzfUZDViuHgkaA6yZfAtloBZLQwlqnQHR9z MXJWMlzeK2bjdUmNnj0ZlF88f2G465Rh1DOD1we5SKP1wMmrMPosmKvUqL2k+BI5SNKw VRFjwaw/D6SZ41DLlBuQcdA2ZxUGNnS56uJ3a2vEsYh4uPHHLD4TvynNlWxxcQNw9JJ8 ye9Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5315OzWFf4RXd/eN/uVVPvpxPungYWxyF9MR3uOMPFzBzET1VoaA afnht4OTW0LskUFRID/a3qmVIc21Xi+KtzcyXb09RT+s8EZI89dDb6A= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyY/jLZHSs30Hn4MZn+XEgZ7bAW7OP8YLnkdx/S7y4SpAMAjoLKykxI2wdmuvAaMd7xIf09K3P3R3HyDObVFBs= X-Received: by 2002:ac2:5084:: with SMTP id f4mr9077658lfm.466.1624159615459; Sat, 19 Jun 2021 20:26:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87bl81kz3b.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::129; envelope-from=hongyi.zhao@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x129.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:131063 Archived-At: On Sun, Jun 20, 2021 at 11:13 AM Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > > Hongyi Zhao wrote: > > > It's well known that "Common Lisp the Language, 2nd Edition" > > is a classic monograph on lisp language. I want to know how > > they differ and to what extent. > > Common Lisp (or CL, 1984) is the industrial-strength Lisp > while Emacs Lisp (or Elisp, 1985) is the Emacs > domain-specific Lisp. So, the following questions come to my mind: 1. Does this mean that the former is a superset of the latter? 2. What's the standard compiler/debugger for the latter on *nix platforms? HY -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Vocational University of Technology and Engineering NO. 552 North Gangtie Road, Xingtai, China