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From: Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com>
To: Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>
Cc: Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
	<help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
	Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Subject: Re: Closures in Emacs and their usage scenarios.
Date: Fri, 8 Oct 2021 18:53:48 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGP6POKHEfVQqQ40ejDDh_4wpM6AENeHh_UCTs04ruGVm0KXNA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AM9PR09MB4977DA15F8BD24CC15EC337E96AB9@AM9PR09MB4977.eurprd09.prod.outlook.com>

On Fri, Oct 1, 2021 at 11:37 AM Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> wrote:
> I don't think you need to, to understand closures. What he says there is that
> closures are more powerful than some other, more manistream tools used in
> programming, particulary object orineted programming. To understand that you
> would obviously you will need to have some udnerstanding of how object orinted
> languages work, what are static class members, inheritance and so on, and you
> would probably need to knoow it bit mroe than just how to use those. If you not
> familiar with such topics I sugget to learn some Java and than try to udnerstand
> that part later on.
>
> My persoal opinion here is that the author is presenting closures as the basic
> building block upon which to build other language primitives, and I think he is
> showing us how simple basic concepts of Lisp are more universal than some other
> concepts favoured by more popular languages. But that might be just mine
> interpretation of that last part.

I'm learning "Advising Emacs Lisp Functions"[1] now. According to my
current superficial understanding, it seems that both closure and
advice function are intended to provide a clean and concise method to
patch/repair/adapt the existing function/macros with a most consistent
way.

[1] https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_mono/elisp.html#Advising-Functions

HZ



  reply	other threads:[~2021-10-08 10:53 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-27  9:40 Closures in Emacs and their usage scenarios Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-28  2:50 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28  2:54   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28  6:46   ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-28  8:30     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28  8:54       ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-28 10:39         ` tomas
2021-09-28 11:29           ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-28 13:31             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28 13:50               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28 13:57             ` tomas
2021-09-28 14:31               ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-28 15:25                 ` tomas
2021-09-29  3:59                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-29  6:43   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28  2:55 ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28  4:11   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-28  4:17     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28 11:53   ` Arthur Miller
2021-09-28 14:50     ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-29  4:04       ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-29  6:10         ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-29 12:28           ` Stefan Monnier
2021-09-29 22:11             ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-29 22:25               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2021-09-30 10:58                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 14:55                   ` Drew Adams
2021-09-30 15:54                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-01  4:35                     ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-29 23:06               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-30  0:59               ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-30  3:27                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-30 11:58                 ` Tomas Hlavaty
2021-09-30 13:27                   ` Hongyi Zhao
2021-09-30 15:29                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-01 14:46               ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-29 23:26             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-01  3:37       ` Arthur Miller
2021-10-08 10:53         ` Hongyi Zhao [this message]
2021-10-10 14:16           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-10 18:25             ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-10-11 23:16               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-12  5:29                 ` Marcin Borkowski
2021-10-12  5:32                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-03  9:07     ` Lisp books (was: Re: Closures in Emacs and their usage scenarios.) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-03 14:41       ` Lisp books Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-05 10:08         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-05 12:57           ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-05 14:18             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-06  1:43               ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-06  3:20                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-06  6:44                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-06  7:06                 ` tomas
2021-10-06 10:17                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-06 12:37                   ` Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-06 12:54                     ` tomas
2021-10-06 20:24                       ` [OFFPTOPIC] ACM digital library (was: Lisp books) Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-06 20:56                         ` tomas
2021-10-07  6:29                           ` Yuri Khan
2021-10-07  9:10                             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-07 12:42                             ` [OFFPTOPIC] ACM digital library Stefan Monnier
2021-10-12  5:44                         ` [OFFPTOPIC] ACM digital library (was: Lisp books) Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-12 18:11                 ` Lisp books Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-03 15:39       ` [External] : Lisp books (was: Re: Closures in Emacs and their usage scenarios.) Drew Adams
2021-10-05 10:10         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-10-05 14:32           ` Drew Adams
2021-10-05 14:51             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28  7:11 ` Closures in Emacs and their usage scenarios Eduardo Ochs
2021-09-28  7:23   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2021-09-28  7:33     ` Eduardo Ochs
2021-09-28  8:13   ` Hongyi Zhao

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