Re: The correspondence of the command-name and its key-sequence.

[Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com>]

On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 4:23 PM Omar Polo <op@omarpolo.com> wrote:
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> Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com> writes:
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> > On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 2:34 PM Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> > But, it's still very hard for me to understand the correspondence of
> >> > the command-name and its key-sequence. To summarize, why use C-g to
> >> > represent the command keyboard-quit, instead of other more directly
> >> > related forms, say, C-q.
> >>
> >> I think you're asking why `C-g' is used for quitting/canceling an action, instead of, for example `C-q' (since `q' is mnemonic for "quit").
> >
> > That's exactly what I mean.
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> q is also a mnemonic for "quote" which, given the lisp background, seems
> appropriate ;)
>
> C-h C-q
>
> > C-q runs the command quoted-insert [...]
>
> >> [.. lots of interesting information about the bell characters ..]
> >>
> >> "For example, the character or "G", whose ASCII code is 71 in base 10, or 100 0111 in binary, would be transformed into the binary code 000 0111 (7 in decimal), which is assigned to the bell character."
> >
> > I find another may be far-fetched relation based on your above
> > notes/hints/comments:
> >
> > werner@X10DAi:~$ printf "%d %x\n" "'q" "'q"
> > 113 71
> > werner@X10DAi:~$ printf "%d %x\n" "'G" "'G"
> > 71 47
> >
> > As you can see, the hexadecimal point code of "q" is the same as the
> > decimal point code of "G" in form.
> >
> > BR,
>
> You shouldn't mix the hexadecimal and decimal representation of the
> characters.  The ASCII characters 0x01-0x1a (inclusive), i.e. the
> characters in the range 1-26 (decimal), are the ctrl- variant of the A-Z
> ASCII characters (0x41-0x5a).

Why is the ASCII table designed into this strange layout?

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> I don't remember if the following is right, so please correct me if I'm
> wrong, but the keyboards (the old ones I mean) when pressing the ctrl-
> key along with a letter would apply a bitmask on that key.  If you look
> at this wikipedia page[0], you'll see that the ASCII character 0x01
> "Start of Heading" is mapped to C-a.  Now, if you look at the byte
> representation of the 'A' character in ASCII it is
>
>    4    1       (decimal)
>   0010 0001     (hexadecimal)
>
> and that SOH is
>
>    0    1       (decimal)
>   0000 0001     (hexadecimal)
>
>
> and so on, B is mapped to to STX, C to ETX, ... G to the BELL character,
> ... I to the hard tab.

The `man acsii' says the following:

HT  '\t' (horizontal tab)

Why you describe it as the hard tab?

>
> So it seems that CTRL(key) is (key & 0xDF).

I still don’t quite understand how this is derived.

> (Again, correct me if I'm
> wrong.  I recall reading something like this time ago, but I couldn't
> find the source now)
>
> Now, exactly why C-g was chosen for to the keyboard-quit, is something I
> don't know, but the fact that by default it produces a BELL character
> (on ttys at least) may be a hint.
>
> [0]:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C0_and_C1_control_codes#Basic_ASCII_control_codes

Thanks a lot for this interesting and presumably feasible analysis.

Best,
-- 
Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao <hongyi.zhao@gmail.com>
Theory and Simulation of Materials
Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering
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