From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongyi Zhao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Package cl is deprecated Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2021 10:05:32 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87eebclnsz.fsf@web.de> <87lf5kabon.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26782"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Aug 02 04:06:31 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1mANLb-0006l9-5O for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 02 Aug 2021 04:06:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:33424 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mANLZ-00059D-Pm for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:06:29 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:53876) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mANKv-00058m-28 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:05:49 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lj1-x230.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::230]:34307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1mANKt-0008KP-B0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 22:05:48 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lj1-x230.google.com with SMTP id f12so21920781ljn.1 for ; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 19:05:46 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=OlUCNIJiQnBkrdaqbiV1g+RoSsZCjL8tlqphiTS00t0=; b=Hb2yCXcvU/QSsSSs/I76RmubdTf6dmqhIPOmwTV8dAS0sDKA4p1J+lwTJasucd8BnV jAmVHfHqA20Qk6gsLeM5VxK0e35EtJXVChT5ZORbtGHht1cgkIeo/HOYh3TwGC49VIfi VEY2gmYMUCZTsM3LkdV3DZLCh7NBpQv875ycWEsJbagc+FX/CuaxxQLq1R6FL8czLNVT yCxc1niOZ5mcCAdzlV1PjYKC4DToNGREbx0S6OL8XoB08imC59GoQIuMQXW1e/AYH0F9 5+3JX0FVo+Vc3W9yLZu8Yh2PZS1VZ27nZMCX1qj2gLN6f2ODTZ3B2Gmrk9tOP8j+erF3 AQnw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=OlUCNIJiQnBkrdaqbiV1g+RoSsZCjL8tlqphiTS00t0=; b=JwtTkl5SsRIxtyQr0wnikG9nNG3TLc4yYmOKd1zn0Ow7n9v1Vjgy/qWO0L6MKKNZuq 6dNf9FduVT7eMU8dhEBk+78V253EZ3EwnxMGZvu4CItgi/ypnZVHHMEklqGLdWlmfOrj QVuGJ9khLYoQ6HCOmR57fcBuv/BzYpwwpCmVA3Yw16V9WXP1gIvAW+Gdj9mS0dT8Qcso j4PE4aYX5LvKOCybMKSqe051tBRpwO+SrmKxs0dFunj4Wsl/U+cMS7smTH0a1EWAHNpN bG6Vx7vcZL48H/O/z7HGEdtGGa6Ftvdwq8sonhXi9sUqVK7PL3dzCMMrc/k1IZVGLoP0 tSqA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533pOzclGcgmezArr6gxdPa8ytva5p1/JxrghMHL7pvc21N9Q0yM 4Wr3pProf8K5dAHPjubJHtKw8QCF7HllAyO1laY= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJz4DU87qaZrlEtEtbAVeEJspA6fJ1JSEGNly01E3aTnvJsmZ/KyNmY+cv1eDQ1pZI+xVbSXJy/hyx5qSCvU+Wc= X-Received: by 2002:a05:651c:12c4:: with SMTP id 4mr9485548lje.320.1627869944526; Sun, 01 Aug 2021 19:05:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87lf5kabon.fsf@web.de> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::230; envelope-from=hongyi.zhao@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x230.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132302 Archived-At: On Mon, Aug 2, 2021 at 9:16 AM Michael Heerdegen wrote: > > Hongyi Zhao writes: > > > Are these newsgroups or mailing lists? I can't find them on: > > . > > Ok, my mistake, I was confused by the gmane group name. This should be > correct: > > Mailing list: info-gnus-english@gnu.org > Group: gnu.emacs.gnus or gmane.emacs.gnus.user > > I hope these correspond to each other. I also found this: > > https://gnus.org/resources.html > > but I don't recall whether these "ding" addresses are still valid or if > they were replaced with other names (or just aliases?). > > (info "(gnus) Gnus Development") If you try (info "(gnus) History"), Emacs will direct you to an info page, which says the following: ;;; If you want to investigate the person responsible for this outrage, you can point your (feh!) web browser to . This is also the primary distribution point for the new and spiffy versions of Gnus, and is known as The Site That Destroys Newsrcs And Drives People Mad. ;;; Then I find the following info on : ;;; Downloading the development Gnus version from git The server uses packed refs. Make sure your version of Git can handle them (1.7.0.4 and later definitely do). Public access git clone http://git.gnus.org/gnus.git ;;; I tried with the above git clone command, but failed as shown below: $ git clone http://git.gnus.org/gnus.git Cloning into 'gnus'... fatal: unable to access 'http://git.gnus.org/gnus.git/': Empty reply from server In short, the gnus related stuff in Emacs looks a bit confusing. > has some information which should be up to date and mentions the names I > have listed at the top. > > Michael. Regards -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Vocational University of Technology and Engineering No. 473, Quannan West Street, Xindu District, Xingtai, Hebei province