From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongyi Zhao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Sv: Install orgmode using its git repository. Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2020 08:07:46 +0800 Message-ID: References: <877dp047hx.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="40791"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs , arthur miller To: Robert Thorpe Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 30 01:08:33 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kuP2W-000AUB-Mh for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 30 Dec 2020 01:08:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:37828 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuP2V-0008Ja-KS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:08:31 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:34118) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuP21-0008JE-Pm for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:08:01 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x134.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::134]:40307) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kuP1z-0000kT-Ao for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 19:08:01 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x134.google.com with SMTP id m12so34292568lfo.7 for ; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:07:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=wfvY6Bxkh/lKTeC3SX8Ab4Z8e8+nir71iFCx4zfVn+c=; b=IQOIYDxyR0qTWNIcEGB9CRVACbAoC9EpPwzkLgBIn8nHOo9yfkTMpSeCSySVCzT+Ty lqssRFBA1uHmjF7mG4YmSGWSSTu6WMupUEA6HaQcA+HDoSXP3PxbXWqv9A7xVUYezLNE O5LRg2qVdFVVoVNrO4n1TOc30e5oyqMGAS67X1Tj6aH0dLEYAj3stRDx4DAR+myrMtqv 9XeNmp8DX54o1zPQrha0YHtoS2Bx/dEixlgAF/RU+KhRmAwYevhk+SjcjDTbWOqbsd7U B5ULVqxZ+Zsa+9Y5zfvQY7wzcnQHN5OnEcHkl4cnHI+xmn1sGwGWhYP1OsXno28QZtcH /l4Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=wfvY6Bxkh/lKTeC3SX8Ab4Z8e8+nir71iFCx4zfVn+c=; b=npsdNTzOj+dZnl8gdVSnjCB/1WL36dzOmfGVgbZQin+cdqrlVwVxAKrtWzWtkMuNBf nnXrQm9cypg1VQKOjLjWXFYmt31MCsu5WEh2KN/Mqe98dk77R1MovTV3f67TruSmuGMj NS/Cv0Za+hhoeWPm9lx0MuoqcpiKrVRRVeIMcJgN2NN96Cnn9npAG8Oq5nZHLi8qA8Hi 3sAYRkV58LzHw4IYMOBtD1wgLKWapsR4h8s/zEIG1dzhVRVLmu7l3N6p42c0ES9dwbK+ c6hZK93tJScfArwhYOzWAYKoJIQmftYLPJS8FFW50cMIV1Lzk7t3PfEOUZvai9orsQI8 GndA== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531fMF7ZmNzreUNTs16vOU/A/jXs6F2K9ZHbVltBJRkbbcniI2Ve P5xR0rv//9l/tMdohXeHmFy7mUefNFZWOhASenQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxJ1rQUmAhW08U8bI+FSckKsoIermk9xsqrLRt1UjtR4y6p8AYzBcc4rzWVWEhhcrhi+GGq29Waqec2OnCrS14= X-Received: by 2002:a19:716:: with SMTP id 22mr21336388lfh.390.1609286877571; Tue, 29 Dec 2020 16:07:57 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <877dp047hx.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::134; envelope-from=hongyi.zhao@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x134.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126910 Archived-At: On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 5:40 AM Robert Thorpe wrote: > > For what it's worth, I agree with Arthur. > > I'd point out that this sort of thing has happened before. A Python > package called "Colourama" was found to be manipulating bitcoin > addresses. When you put a bitcoin address into the clipboard it would > intercept it and replace it with a different one. Notice the British > spelling, the legitimate package was called "Colorama". The "Colourama" > package was a minor derivative with the bitcoin address trick added in. > > Something similar happened to the NPM Javascript library. > > We also have to remember that there's the possibility of people hacking > things like github. Or obtaining the credentials of github users and > their signing keys. The recent problems at the US DoD were caused by > Solarwinds software. The hackers got into the Solarwinds source code > repository (due to very lax security, github & gitlab are probably > better). Once in the repository they made a few changes to the > sourcecode to introduce a backdoor. > > As a result, I'm fairly wary of this idea of automatic downloading. On > the other hand, for many packages it's hardly practical to read the > whole sourcecode no matter how you obtain it. Elisp, just as any lisp derivatives, has a very steep learning curve. They all have a fairly simple grammatical structure at the first glimpse but it is so difficult to master and use them skillfully. BR, -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Polytechnic University of Science and Technology engineering NO. 552 North Gangtie Road, Xingtai, China