From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongyi Zhao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Screenshots, frame shots straight from Emacs Date: Fri, 23 Jul 2021 09:55:38 +0800 Message-ID: References: <87sg1dgbbk.fsf@omarpolo.com> <87pmwhg843.fsf@omarpolo.com> <8735t96mxj.fsf@omarpolo.com> <87a6mdzuap.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37972"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" To: Emanuel Berg , help-gnu-emacs Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Jul 23 03:56:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m6kQB-0009YE-PS for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 23 Jul 2021 03:56:15 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:50398 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6kQA-0003HS-9P for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 21:56:14 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40814) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6kPp-0003H4-TZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 21:55:53 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::135]:37854) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m6kPo-0005Fb-8S for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 21:55:53 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id b26so11474046lfo.4 for ; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 18:55:51 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CxLBqWFtZfF8kGlGJB2HU5a4Mx0IhCbPAzWq1xkUL0Y=; b=esYI3x25H8DL56dtHIwF6lSpOxZtoOpT1p79gpKruEALMqsnfh3lC6FQvmVICo6RQA 2fz/Pywgj7EwGrDPhUK3sFqVEk00AV09w0wcIgctMNaw2DI0GSVHJI8n2U+IgpSHSowS wFKQzarQVYt+POq8Zz560jwno2/cCu9/1gXquF6DGkUcUvGYY1vbC1EcubI4Gdrdh73E Dho0EJeFZ1/8Cyds0pDGpvtf2fHwxWEKo6NmvAvjsgrC6wXqQLq4udBxkiZKRa46V9MU XG8ifcWuayaGD/rWa2A50qsGocCVpthUH0jUiFFWxlJwtX6LM51Eiuxs6E/MnhlfOebs ucuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=CxLBqWFtZfF8kGlGJB2HU5a4Mx0IhCbPAzWq1xkUL0Y=; b=VhbshiI4uzVEqtBW3v66/X+bzRuPF/yddop+6xqUN1S9IBbT4VSjR6I0xaZzH4AXse yVd9rtdAP9mNFlMQKamjKp586xV3bhtqahzGcrtYL25S8PxfOSr5CdCnjXwOm7ORB69d cenUw5ezQLYFvG+y13DJ695QpyCsY7un5kLAsEkzy7RtxOgsCnbbGkQLVN0dw2Mb4KGP tA8LAeOXG5ZCKK8QW3z/ik+DLyQhMqDTGqOwKjXRIq76jijRhDs6xfoE6V/UaPKbqcfu fE+6uoENSxEh7tca5OjfwM4kkjmDPmAerv6o6Z+MFbcbQ/2yHBTwxprjH1z4Zyb7hboP gfzQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM5320K8/s2VArTwGLoRi317Umoqa0ROT8331e6lvYthllF7arvmF5 wiG2WAYqhpqg40ap0mjB3mI4njhZviVheDGGPVw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzEd+gSirkxmzg6llYDwkALY/jQmIM78DKbCLkOiX7dzxByDwBPUgMcawSpph9RluBbJCpcl/4bKcc2hTPmEJ4= X-Received: by 2002:a05:6512:3f9a:: with SMTP id x26mr1520671lfa.75.1627005349903; Thu, 22 Jul 2021 18:55:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87a6mdzuap.fsf@zoho.eu> Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::135; envelope-from=hongyi.zhao@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x135.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132063 Archived-At: On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 9:40 AM Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > > Hongyi Zhao wrote: > > > Thank you very much for your courtesy. I like screenshot is > > due to its intuitive and simplicity compared to wording in > > many scenarios. > > Screenshots are awesome to convey a lot of things but as for > "wording" it is an acquired skill to describe a tech problem > or situation and a large part of that is to know what details > are likely to be relevant and then present them and only them > in a way that communicates the situation or what has happened. > > Taking a huge photo of the whole screen is maybe fast and fun > but it does a worse job at narrowing down the problem, as there > is so much unrelated material, even in a virtual console or > terminal emulator mode. So, I think the following way is a compromise and complementary approaches: 1. If wording it enough, that's OK. 2. If not, use a screenshot with appropriate comment/sketch/post-processing on it to avoid off-topic understanding. I really want to have the feature of 2. supplied by native Emacs (or with the helps of some 3-rd packages, say, the ones on MELPA), but I still can't figure out the solution. Regards -- Assoc. Prof. Hongyi Zhao Theory and Simulation of Materials Hebei Vocational University of Technology and Engineering No. 473, Quannan West Street, Xindu District, Xingtai, Hebei province