From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hongyi Zhao Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: [External] : Re: Package cl is deprecated Date: Wed, 28 Jul 2021 22:55:42 +0800 Message-ID: References: <01eaf257-1142-c407-c9c0-0d6a2e3148b1@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="37536"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs , Thibaut Verron To: Drew Adams Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Wed Jul 28 16:56:35 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1m8kz5-0009Tr-6J for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 16:56:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:54278 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m8kz4-0006Oo-4j for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:56:34 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:38610) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m8kyT-0006L4-Jk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lf1-x132.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::132]:34628) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1m8kyR-0002Lw-Rk for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 10:55:57 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lf1-x132.google.com with SMTP id z2so4546888lft.1 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 07:55:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=DkEP8zyPMq2Ek8GPiDetffaM/CFyEdtXeHoQupJEJvk=; b=lswmTgb1aRN7NCMDt7815NCRGBIrd/x20VpqzRoZrIUhoY8tuJ7SiuQNXsqTOFshTC tBye7loCUtA0vAx06PErEw7xLv+5hNLFweKd/WervkKKUE66wFDNPubObJxzJAsrw0Ji SW6tbxrn6aBZMYP42cZ0HDLtfR8zradlyX01UpoNMXZOQwQv1V+x7ZyQJ3dpvtRz3juG h59ZAno44VspD9BieeglBZ6B7QvjEgPTae2PRI4kVkVpQ7IyEZRcEkrooIvMJ8ZLLjX6 uHSKSYJHl/amxQDLFJAzGCIe9rIPu7M1hTGXuVOVWmWe2gYndfSy5zhHwkwdEcVFNm3T MkFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=DkEP8zyPMq2Ek8GPiDetffaM/CFyEdtXeHoQupJEJvk=; b=TvXH3K/Cp6gMFqoj1JeCVzppoIdBNR3W1mUp7QrUYiYP4y9si7lPHrFvpUCyFRLN3q L3sqA/hYWtE4Pq98GDM+2w0+vcAexNvAhLdUkZFSfZfMxoo2wNMKgu5Azfz//NmKTTRN WKX8R0e7WljoqcOFQUzsyks3KrMo7EfEzMj7ACQ2jHUlU/+vYvoIe2mtjqq90+oxFVDF +75MA9dFej9x+z/TW3Lld+aEXVPZk2kWFn3iE9FLMXzJrcGuaHMOBI2+1875yTTCEpSE rLZjGCo1hyjyrGimfSlOTIVXVwWVkzOKnoVyPv28T/xsdH6YWiwqSn3hzf5eJHUjSbsv OlRg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533+sAXYlP8t9JeQL33jpjmiUib5xZ53cfeU3fa2XNCgw/NxDLeN Vk6qp1jpwYyV48K5qMRFQjK3/vk9VMZ3bHHc0Y0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzrIQIz9rL6BJs9citOK2X98FGv44SE61je7R6oEev1NLF3aQyRr/EdResFVbzpTnyr6uVb8jrmYtC78z4mti8= X-Received: by 2002:a19:fc13:: with SMTP id a19mr10936lfi.466.1627484153825; Wed, 28 Jul 2021 07:55:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::132; envelope-from=hongyi.zhao@gmail.com; helo=mail-lf1-x132.google.com X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:132158 Archived-At: On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 10:36 PM Drew Adams wrote: > > > Then it's from a package and you need to identify it. > > To be clear about one point - > > You don't _need_ to identify it or change it. You can > likely do so without creating problems, if you want to. > > Deprecation does not mean desupport. Library `cl.el' is > still _supported_. At some future point it might become > desupported (probably will) - but it's supported now. > > In addition, if you find (require 'cl) in some 3rd-party > library that you use, what do you intend to do about that? > > You can notify the library maintainers, so they can decide > what to do or inform you about what you might do. Or you > can modify that library source code yourself, to replace > that with (require 'cl-lib). > > But besides not _needing_ to do any such thing, be aware > that a 3rd-party library may use such code intentionally, > for backward compatibility (even if you don't need that, > the library might want it, for other users on older Emacs > versions). > > So if it's about a 3rd-party library, you might want to > check with its maintainers. > > If it's a (require 'cl) in vanilla Emacs code then you > can file a bug report / enhancement request, to let the > Emacs maintainers know about it: `M-x report-emacs-bug'. > > In any case, if you report it to whomever its maintainers > are, even if it gets "fixed" right away, unless you use > the most recent source code available (e.g. build Emacs > yourself, if the fix is in Emacs itself), you'll need to > wait some. > > Remember, this is a byte-compiler warning message. It's > not an error message. There's really nothing that you > _need_ to fix. But if the warning really bothers you then... Got it. Thank you for your explanation and systematic comments. Regards, Hongyi