From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Bob Bobeck Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Emacs terminology (not again!?) [was: Apologia for bzr] Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 23:14:25 -0500 Message-ID: References: <20140103152117.GA16679@c3po> <20140104082857.GA22010@thyrsus.com> <3096922F-ACE6-4D70-BDB9-F6110FF8C62A@gmail.com> <87a9f7poq0.fsf@fencepost.gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1389154468 32140 80.91.229.3 (8 Jan 2014 04:14:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 8 Jan 2014 04:14:28 +0000 (UTC) Cc: esr@thyrsus.com, David Kastrup , emacs-devel@gnu.org To: rms@gnu.org Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 08 05:14:36 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W0kXL-0000e6-5q for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Wed, 08 Jan 2014 05:14:35 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44859 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0kXK-0001Cs-Lx for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 23:14:34 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48572) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0kXG-00019T-DU for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 23:14:31 -0500 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0kXF-000391-Is for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 23:14:30 -0500 Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x244.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c00::244]:38288) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1W0kXC-00037m-Hd; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 23:14:26 -0500 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f68.google.com with SMTP id l18so15333wgh.7 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:14:25 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0Ar53w2rvJA1gsdBE2MNAw8KONzecT8XrZAkt436G0c=; b=Nq3/vyzMtLNoOpCfxyLntTx+m+lyMhq6nwzi6AxlKJy+ErP8nqmD+Oxe77hJux0o0C oHuHLPSk5HQZEiner0nLzx/NS/r4ttFkN1IFztrROAnWNfaup15fIvXDHa7MsAQWHl6U 1ItbJKsezJ4dRgYPfbaWxjYYuDaiOR5xDE8jnHiC+J0A/OvvYcL8Q4Von6Z2AiEyer/X XpCvILbjgycCamFlqb0kcnEkIU878X5Kij/jxZLZQsRI1exv2Rz8fscMNOK1h4d2SDGW nu6JgDD3G3sdaefmksZWFq8ignoLHYa2t6NBfKGNac8IBgG1vxnMkrWqj68DX68vbyy2 VF0w== X-Received: by 10.194.173.163 with SMTP id bl3mr80208208wjc.10.1389154465554; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 20:14:25 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.227.216.2 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 20:14:25 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c00::244 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:167706 Archived-At: I think it's more like Dumbledwarf. He gets killed in the end. Bwahahhahaha. On 1/7/14, Richard Stallman wrote: > [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] > [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] > [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > > Emacs _is_ one of the old great ones. You are trying to make Gandalf > more popular by plucking his nose hairs. > > It's not a good analogy. People can like Gandalf as a character > without having to learn lots of incantations. > > Learning Emacs is never going to be easy. But we might be able > to change Emacs so that learning it is a little less hard, > and that would be a substantial improvement. > > -- > Dr Richard Stallman > President, Free Software Foundation > 51 Franklin St > Boston MA 02110 > USA > www.fsf.org www.gnu.org > Skype: No way! That's nonfree (freedom-denying) software. > Use Ekiga or an ordinary phone call. > > >