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* TRAMP improvements
@ 2016-10-18 13:42 Philippe Vaucher
  2016-10-18 14:03 ` Michael Albinus
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 2+ messages in thread
From: Philippe Vaucher @ 2016-10-18 13:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Emacs developers, Michael Albinus

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Hello,

A while ago, I had a lengthy discussion about TRAMP with someone on IRC.

The discussion eventually resulted with someone making a lot of suggestions
on how TRAMP should be, what was done "wrong" in it, etc. When suggested to
communicate upstream, the person was not interested at all but showed a
paste of custom hacks with comments suggesting areas where TRAMP could be
improved... I kept this paste aside and I fell on it today so I'm sending
it, in the hope it helps improving TRAMP.

I know the tone of the paste is not very constructive, please try to see
past it and focus on the ideas/leads mentionned instead.

Here is the paste: http://sprunge.us/NGJM?cl

Maybe some or all of these comments are not relevant anymore, maybe the
ideas are not really good ideas after all, or maybe it'd be too much work
to implement some of the ideas... but I thought that it's for emacs-devel
to decide.

If there are ideas worth considering, it's probably a good idea to start
new threads for each ideas, assuming they need somewhat deep discussions.

Kind regards,
Philippe

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* Re: TRAMP improvements
  2016-10-18 13:42 TRAMP improvements Philippe Vaucher
@ 2016-10-18 14:03 ` Michael Albinus
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 2+ messages in thread
From: Michael Albinus @ 2016-10-18 14:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Philippe Vaucher; +Cc: tramp-devel, Emacs developers

Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com> writes:

> Hello,

Hi Philippe,

> The discussion eventually resulted with someone making a lot of
> suggestions on how TRAMP should be, what was done "wrong" in it, etc.
> When suggested to communicate upstream, the person was not interested
> at all but showed a paste of custom hacks with comments suggesting
> areas where TRAMP could be improved... I kept this paste aside and I
> fell on it today so I'm sending it, in the hope it helps improving
> TRAMP.

Thanks for this!

> I know the tone of the paste is not very constructive, please try to
> see past it and focus on the ideas/leads mentionned instead.

No problem. It's not the first time I'm flamed because of Tramp ...

> Here is the paste: http://sprunge.us/NGJM?cl
>
> Maybe some or all of these comments are not relevant anymore, maybe
> the ideas are not really good ideas after all, or maybe it'd be too
> much work to implement some of the ideas... but I thought that it's
> for emacs-devel to decide.
>
> If there are ideas worth considering, it's probably a good idea to
> start new threads for each ideas, assuming they need somewhat deep
> discussions.

I will go through case by case. After a first look, some of the problems
are fixed indeed, some other comments need more investigation.

I have added also <tramp-devel@gnu.org>, since this is the primary
discussion list for Tramp issues.

> Kind regards,
> Philippe

Best regards, Michael.

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