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From: Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com>,
	Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Namespacing Emacs's core (was: [ELPA] New package: transient)
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 2020 20:56:53 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGK7Mr6CZGE3jW-DPG-7y8tgfVrOdj35n+uGwc=D1P6RVmYStA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAGK7Mr7QaHde=9YFaNS6UFxUk3-GV29MA-Rez3e0xN6cOY0GfA@mail.gmail.com>

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I realise after everything I said that I forgot to link to Emacs coding
conventions in my initial post:

https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/html_node/elisp/Coding-Conventions.html

"You should choose a short word to distinguish your program from other Lisp
programs. The names of all global symbols in your program, that is the
names of variables, constants, and functions, should begin with that chosen
prefix. Separate the prefix from the rest of the name with a hyphen, ‘-’.
This practice helps avoid name conflicts, since all global variables in
Emacs Lisp share the same name space, and all functions share another name
space1. Use two hyphens to separate prefix and name if the symbol is not
meant to be used by other packages."

I'm sorry if I missexpressed or wasn't clear enough: I don't want to rename
the world. I just think the emacs API would be more clear if it was better
namespaced, and that many tools would benefit from it. To better namespace
it I proposed to add aliases.

What to alias, when, where and how is all up to discussion.

Kind regards,
Philippe

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Thread overview: 234+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-04-28 13:01 [ELPA] New package: transient Jonas Bernoulli
     [not found] ` <jwv4kt3d1r8.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]   ` <87v9ljo5d0.fsf@bernoul.li>
     [not found]     ` <jwvh7x3bfoe.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>
     [not found]       ` <87ftcnxu5m.fsf@bernoul.li>
2020-04-29  8:29         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29  9:26           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29  9:50             ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 10:05               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 10:17                 ` tomas
2020-04-29 10:33                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 10:52                     ` tomas
2020-04-30 12:44                       ` Arthur Miller
2020-04-30 13:28                         ` tomas
2020-04-30 14:26                           ` Namespacing Emacs's core (was: [ELPA] New package: transient) Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30 15:08                             ` tomas
2020-04-30 18:23                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:56                               ` Philippe Vaucher [this message]
2020-04-30 19:02                                 ` tomas
2020-04-30  2:30                   ` [ELPA] New package: transient Richard Stallman
2020-05-01  2:49                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-01  6:33                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02  2:24                         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02  7:04                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02  8:09                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02  9:05                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02  9:19                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 10:11                                   ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 10:33                                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 10:56                                       ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 10:59                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 11:09                                         ` Use elisp--xref-backend in *Apropos* and *Help* (Was Re: [ELPA] New package: transient) João Távora
2020-05-02 14:03                                           ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03  2:08                                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 11:22                                         ` [ELPA] New package: transient Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 11:52                                           ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 12:08                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 12:09                                           ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:14                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 12:22                                               ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 17:33                                     ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04  3:07                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-04 16:04                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02  9:53                                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 10:39                                   ` João Távora
2020-05-02 11:10                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 11:17                                       ` João Távora
2020-05-02 11:39                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 12:02                                           ` João Távora
2020-05-02 12:11                                             ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:20                                               ` João Távora
2020-05-02 12:36                                                 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 12:59                                                   ` João Távora
2020-05-02 13:02                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 13:12                                                     ` João Távora
2020-05-02 12:28                                               ` tomas
2020-05-02 12:22                                           ` tomas
2020-05-03  3:43                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-03  4:24                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04  3:08                                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 17:48                                         ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 14:50                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 14:57                                       ` João Távora
2020-05-02 17:42                                     ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 10:54                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 11:47                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 12:04                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 14:56                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 15:37                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 15:51                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-02 16:09                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 13:59                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 14:10                                   ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 14:12                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 14:26                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 15:29                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 15:43                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 16:05                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:12                                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 16:26                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 16:42                                                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 18:27                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03  3:43                                       ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-03  7:47                                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-03 19:46                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-03 21:18                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 22:04                                               ` João Távora
2020-05-04  0:41                                               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04  3:09                                           ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 16:48                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 17:17                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 18:10                                         ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 18:30                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 18:37                                             ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 18:45                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02 19:12                                                 ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 19:44                                               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 18:32                                           ` Yuan Fu
2020-05-02 20:41                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 20:39                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 21:00                                           ` João Távora
2020-05-02 21:53                                             ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 22:13                                               ` João Távora
2020-05-04  3:07                                             ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 21:27                                           ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-03 14:45                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 15:03                                             ` João Távora
2020-05-03 15:11                                               ` Joost Kremers
2020-05-03 15:28                                               ` C-h f and C-h v (was: [ELPA] New package: transient) Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 17:41                                                 ` João Távora
2020-05-03 17:44                                                   ` João Távora
2020-05-03 16:21                                               ` [ELPA] New package: transient Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 15:17                                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-03 16:32                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 21:13                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 13:52                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 15:14                                                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 15:55                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 18:41                                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 18:58                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 16:23                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 16:47                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 17:04                                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 17:29                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 17:42                                                     ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 18:58                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04  0:04                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-03 19:49                                                       ` João Távora
2020-05-03 23:47                                                         ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-04  1:01                                                           ` João Távora
2020-05-04  1:28                                                             ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-04 18:05                                                               ` João Távora
2020-05-04 14:24                                                             ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 15:23                                                               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 16:00                                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-04 17:31                                                               ` Drew Adams
2020-05-04  1:13                                                     ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-04 14:22                                                       ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05  8:23                                                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 14:48                                                           ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05 15:39                                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 16:13                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05 16:33                                                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 15:44                                                             ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05 16:15                                                               ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-05 16:40                                                                 ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-05  8:27                                                         ` Jean-Christophe Helary
2020-05-03 21:04                                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-04 13:51                                                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 16:50                                               ` João Távora
2020-05-03 16:54                                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-03 17:43                                                   ` João Távora
2020-05-04  3:08                                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02 18:57                                       ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 19:15                                         ` 조성빈
2020-05-02 19:59                                           ` Drew Adams
2020-05-02 20:47                                         ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-02 14:22                                   ` João Távora
2020-04-29 13:12                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 13:42                   ` tomas
2020-04-29 13:50                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 17:03                       ` Robert Pluim
2020-04-29 19:25                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 17:51                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-29 19:24                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 13:53                     ` Stefan Kangas
2020-04-29 14:01                       ` tomas
2020-04-29 14:20                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 15:25                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:13                       ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 18:19                         ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:41                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 19:26                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 19:34                               ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 22:47                                 ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 22:20                               ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-01  3:13                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-01  3:15                                 ` Stefan Monnier
2020-05-01 15:36                                   ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-05-01 16:05                                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02  2:27                               ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02  7:07                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-05-02  8:06                                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02 17:08                                   ` Drew Adams
2020-04-30 19:31                             ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 17:27                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-29 19:01                     ` tomas
2020-04-29 19:31                     ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 11:51                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-30 12:38                         ` tomas
2020-04-30 17:30                           ` Dmitry Gutov
2020-04-30 17:53                             ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:42                               ` tomas
2020-04-30 18:41                             ` tomas
2020-04-30 18:14                           ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 18:58                             ` tomas
2020-04-30 19:13                               ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-30 19:33                                 ` tomas
2020-04-30 20:54                                 ` Alan Mackenzie
2020-04-30 22:46                                   ` chad
2020-05-02  2:27                                     ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-01  8:23                                   ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02  2:24                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-30 22:04                               ` Keeping it kind Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-01  7:17                                 ` tomas
2020-05-01  8:31                                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-05-02  2:24                                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02  2:27                                 ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-01  2:51                       ` [ELPA] New package: transient Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 20:02                     ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-04-30  1:08                     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 13:19                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 14:28                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 14:51                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-30  2:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 13:32               ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 13:43                 ` Philippe Vaucher
2020-04-29 14:17                 ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-29 14:19                   ` Yuan Fu
2020-04-30  2:28                   ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 15:31                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2020-04-29 15:48                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-29 16:05                     ` Drew Adams
2020-05-01 17:38                 ` João Távora
2020-05-01 18:03                   ` Stefan Monnier
2020-04-30  2:30               ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-29 14:56           ` Drew Adams
2020-04-29 12:52         ` Adam Porter
2020-04-30  2:29 ` Richard Stallman
2020-04-30 10:50   ` Phil Sainty
2020-05-01  2:52     ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-01  5:36       ` Phil Sainty
2020-05-02  2:25         ` Richard Stallman
2020-05-02  2:30           ` T.V Raman
2020-05-01 10:40       ` Kévin Le Gouguec
2020-05-01 15:16         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2020-05-02  2:24           ` Richard Stallman

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