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From: Philippe Vaucher <philippe.vaucher@gmail.com>
To: "Clément Pit-Claudel" <cpitclaudel@gmail.com>
Cc: Emacs developers <emacs-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: modern regexes in emacs
Date: Fri, 15 Feb 2019 16:03:03 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAGK7Mr5szEF6oB3h8RcjudW=4zNTqNhZDpnw1Q7GKMWkkzdMjw@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <387b4e87-2255-0467-c23e-e60c6b090fb3@gmail.com>

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>
> > Would this even be possible? I can imagine a whole lot of packages
> breaking if the regexp syntax changed, and changing it just for the user
> input in interactive functions looks a bit sketchy.
>
> We could just add a special tag at the beginning of a regexp to indicate
> that it's a pcre regexp; something like this maybe? (re-search-forward
> "\\(?pcre:\\)…[pcre regexp goes here]…").  This form is currently a syntax
> error, so there would be no ambiguity, and we could define a (pcre …) macro
> so that you could write (re-search-forward (pcre "…[pcre regexp goes
> here]…")) instead.  Alternatively, we could use an explicit tag, something
> like (re-search-forward (cons 'pcre "…[pcre regexp goes here]…")).
>
> For interactive functions, I imagine you'd have a defcustom with a
> preferred regexp dialect.
>

I like where this is going, that and Eli's suggestion of a special text
property we have plenty of ways to implement it where it'd play nice with
the existing code.

So far 3 proposals:

   - Regexps are always strings, with "\\(?pcre:\\)" as part of the regexp
      - when the string is displayed you need to scan the beginning to see
      it is a PCRE regex
      - no separation between the regexp and it's kind
   - Regexps are strings (emacs regexps) or conses with their kind as
   symbol with the first argument
      - when the argument is displayed you see immediatly wether it's an
      emacs regexp or one using another engine
      - the regexp is clearly separated from it's kind, probably faciliting
      convertions
      - seems more "open", in the sense we can easily imagine new types
      ('emacs, 'pcre', 'rx, 'sed, 'vim-verymagic, etc)
   - Special text property on the string
      - Not immediatly visible that it is a PCRE regexp
      - Harder to manipulate?

Given this I'm in favor of the 2nd option, but maybe I missed some points.

Philippe

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-02-15 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-16 16:37 modern regexes in emacs Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-16 17:45 ` Radon Rosborough
2018-06-16 18:25   ` Perry E. Metzger
2018-06-16 21:01     ` Daniel Colascione
2018-06-16 22:31 ` Jay Kamat
2019-02-09 17:20   ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-02-10  9:39   ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-02-11 22:12     ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-15 13:42       ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-02-15 14:10         ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-15 15:03           ` Philippe Vaucher [this message]
2019-02-15 15:13             ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-15 14:18         ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-15 15:28           ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-02-15 16:06             ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-15 16:24           ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-15 16:47             ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-02-15 17:54               ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-02-15 18:27                 ` Drew Adams
2019-02-15 23:33                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-02-16  0:34                     ` Jay Kamat
2019-02-16  1:46                       ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-02-16  2:44                         ` Jay Kamat
2019-02-15 18:36                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-15 18:43                   ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-15 19:48                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-17  3:17                       ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-25 14:47                         ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-02-25 15:46                           ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-26  2:57                             ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-26 12:39                               ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-02-26 13:24                                 ` Troy Hinckley
2019-02-26 13:32                                   ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2019-02-26 14:33                                     ` Andreas Schwab
2019-02-27 12:09                                       ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-27 18:18                                         ` Daniel Pittman
2019-02-26 15:29                                 ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-27  4:08                                 ` Richard Stallman
2019-02-26  3:47                             ` Elias Mårtenson
2019-02-26 12:00                           ` Mattias Engdegård
2019-02-15 23:35                     ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-02-17 20:01                     ` Juri Linkov
2019-02-18  0:38                       ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-15 18:46                   ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-15 19:52                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-15 20:08                       ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-15 19:14                   ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-02-15 20:00                     ` Eli Zaretskii
2019-02-15 20:40                       ` Alan Mackenzie
2019-02-15 23:33                   ` Perry E. Metzger
2019-02-15 18:44                 ` Clément Pit-Claudel
2019-02-15 19:37                 ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-19 12:29                   ` Van L
2019-02-17 20:47         ` Stefan Monnier
2019-02-18  8:40           ` Philippe Vaucher
2019-02-18  8:55           ` Mattias Engdegård
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2018-06-16 21:33 Jimmy Yuen Ho Wong

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