From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.ciao.gmane.io!not-for-mail From: Philippe Vaucher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: Namespaces - summary, conclusion Date: Mon, 4 May 2020 18:28:11 +0200 Message-ID: References: Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="ciao.gmane.io:159.69.161.202"; logging-data="61382"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Stefan Kangas , Emacs developers To: =?UTF-8?B?7KGw7ISx67mI?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon May 04 18:30:11 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdys-000FqX-Rh for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 18:30:10 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40620 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdyr-0004O4-SW for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 12:30:09 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45056) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdxR-0002m4-Ge for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 12:28:42 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-lj1-x22f.google.com ([2a00:1450:4864:20::22f]:46865) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_128_GCM_SHA256:128) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1jVdxQ-0005F4-Gc for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 04 May 2020 12:28:41 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-lj1-x22f.google.com with SMTP id f18so10271613lja.13 for ; Mon, 04 May 2020 09:28:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=knbMR4o+xM/jmAE02sWg1dlxqLFd9ln84lvmnVXjTtw=; b=OKGqD8RiTSV/+UP8hE9AKPRPQPDgGjfKgVDtzABh0YqfRKDjIqLZ/OUvaWUyaVrrvU 2Gp5eQAbwknrrVRZsQj57edSHxKTCe8Qlpet9vsXYU7teZuSSAaX5t+SkbNQ0k9mJBHR tMbgHKZKlb1xUSmi4zME/x0iFg50dPolS1zOvgIQZQIaY3HWxaD481OtxydVtvS8edOw 5RyIjjxdQgpe6BQyclxQJKBvA5WjzCwt/+l1odJueV63uppBUWdSbxSgtZ1d8HtUXm1k i0i2xuP+Q36W8GVOV6MH62WTqp8qw/YeeGc+cQXVNnmrjf70F8Rw9gMEPkrAGNQioOD+ +Ugg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-transfer-encoding; bh=knbMR4o+xM/jmAE02sWg1dlxqLFd9ln84lvmnVXjTtw=; b=BB+jsjqro/f4wMm4KXFE3LAjXM8QQq5LyL/wbCznMerL190CeAsjSFAHwQJIeQjgwY 4156UAbRRVHLUvr+/mJdlL7Yc83LY87Kp6d5MLcPzqbd7zCBtcGb5BL+Xj4cUZJFYj9/ hTnCJE7O33UHxu9O32SbtLyQ/JInH6itOB+L8dG02NQewzX/lC8FancCmqtZ50gWed2A zvPMdYkCPAEf9oCbSm7Gis8JvGEtwWRYOq2m52c63T03LH81ZN7iK15lhyV773jZ0R3J vDgOPzCn/e7qb/3fdfYvEjmJcY6AbPNSuCFts1OYSkM7UyHp7kdEfCdb6eP2BsinHDbL Brkg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PubV0s/+qsWkJ/2j5eFvcjhAzvd/SNjD+gbXhLbgpYiu/ZLI8fj0 sAdTmWW4z+dNfJBozUAKzC1IDYheLZ9YjSn4JrRTY7sM X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypIEThDOZytUzFbvQOW2cvGjT8pVrB365djnhptFah6JVUb3kcfh1Go+xRBofpkSmzB3Bl6vN3UUHE2TKZ5lhBk= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:8999:: with SMTP id c25mr10943556lji.73.1588609718422; Mon, 04 May 2020 09:28:38 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: Received-SPF: pass client-ip=2a00:1450:4864:20::22f; envelope-from=philippe.vaucher@gmail.com; helo=mail-lj1-x22f.google.com X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: No matching host in p0f cache. That's all we know. X-Spam_score_int: -20 X-Spam_score: -2.1 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.1 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_EF=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=_AUTOLEARN X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.devel:248862 Archived-At: > I think consistency is important, and if the language itself wants naming > things the =E2=80=98lisp-way=E2=80=99, I=E2=80=99m fine with a consistent= naming scheme. I=E2=80=99m not sure > if you=E2=80=99d agree or not, but maybe trying to find a consistent nami= ng scheme > and > documenting them (which was called as the =E2=80=98lisp-way=E2=80=99 by s= ome) might be first. > And then we can rename the ones that don=E2=80=99t follow them. That makes a lot of sense. > What does everybody think about this? I think it would be less disruptive= and > controversial if some Elisp core API guidelines are decided, written, and > followed in the future. Then, if it turns out it=E2=80=99s useful enough,= we can > start > aliasing functions that don=E2=80=99t follow them to names that do follow= them (if > it=E2=80=99s desirable to do so.) It'd also be easier for future discussions to point out to the current "standard", and for people to propose changes.