From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Philippe Vaucher Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: tabulated-list sort icon is reversed Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:28:26 +0200 Message-ID: References: <83a7qbtc6l.fsf@gnu.org> <83bmaqq735.fsf@gnu.org> <3e3da755-76b6-207c-7eda-2e7edc159657@gmail.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: blaine.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000005124d05724fc005" X-Trace: blaine.gmane.org 1533061651 26022 195.159.176.226 (31 Jul 2018 18:27:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 18:27:31 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Emacs developers To: =?UTF-8?Q?Cl=C3=A9ment_Pit=2DClaudel?= Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Jul 31 20:27:27 2018 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by blaine.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1fkZMk-0006cS-RY for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 20:27:27 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:60204 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fkZOp-0004cm-VD for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:29:35 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:49509) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fkZOB-0004cV-Ay for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:28:56 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fkZOA-0005Yq-DF for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:28:55 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-vk0-x22d.google.com ([2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d]:34028) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.0:RSA_AES_128_CBC_SHA1:16) (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1fkZOA-0005Y5-6J for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 14:28:54 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-vk0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id l143-v6so8006039vke.1 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:28:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=pbHAzOz60hRts4T5q58N2P2QXehNfZ6PwCkcSl19Dh4=; b=XAmCsFgC7WlwfpcjzfZWROv0ADLE4Dq/l/vWxTKr0DIH5SxlBad03/NOzhAeBJYh8C hqs9tCYRYB369+w1SYahajdLgLp8zIKthtj/uyEj4t/8or3t3I7l0/AicaXsXtO66jP/ DT2n7pCIYlwOTb/vevKV4rWufXq2BwszcnV4SiSaElirPOCqNFfarPkJ9TNTmIzKE17q 6qeNWiAHKxG8Z+Iyykf7/kOd2N/az1bN4XU1na0lXG559WuMUGQwfhc90/uN7+U7Wbq7 Is6AXRak/POmlZ19+oB8Sz5jIMR4X7C8250VlhwTmSSL/c+ShNpU4zX/V9Ga6EqE1EIt 7+uQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=pbHAzOz60hRts4T5q58N2P2QXehNfZ6PwCkcSl19Dh4=; b=la+QaPns/jB8pzw0QQ1rOrEJ7BswhSCKuPO8keAsx8pZvRmyH0KDLdBnwC1ODRQ5h8 HVGsfUAIhh1gZ2Wz/86IlndUfKR3gECXQT/9SSxLb8TZKVAJ+o9zmNsyW1tHdX7rrk8c sfSo9i+JXWBtyNkJw/375Iszdv8SSeUBRil6yhSm/ucWXNPcsfl/hyNoRnvJb8WXagSt 82mfiPInkKCAq1WxvTB6jxe5+6eVF72Sr5CcAM/uzbf17U6TktSFSh384pEQ4dma9U5Q 99BZ9ZZpoJvKfde9k5bVeXtU0f+V0SOZ1Vs9vwDEkv5duTrMobAL3XjKJL5EI8gV0bHj i0hQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlHOGBtS6CpfgKG+4JdND6j15R61116CkyRT0kplHCFjaz5gqMyH hHmHnKQse0/nGl+nQLxdqXlDLW3bNU0YLofncdc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgperf/dmOiSog/GOiKA4jvYYxBPxJ00htrqABeL+gO3lB1Q9d8EeblY3+NgARvjy4STf6eghCkwrXD4rKM0jDpU= X-Received: by 2002:a1f:fccc:: with SMTP id a195-v6mr13985970vki.109.1533061733092; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 11:28:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3e3da755-76b6-207c-7eda-2e7edc159657@gmail.com> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:400c:c05::22d X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.21 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "Emacs-devel" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:228056 Archived-At: --00000000000005124d05724fc005 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > The trick used on old macs was pretty good: instead of a solid triangle > (which can mean "pyramid" or "arrow"), use increasingly narrow or > increasingly wide layers: > > This means "sorted small to large": > > _ > ___ > _____ > _______ > > > This means "sorted large to small": > > _______ > _____ > ___ > _ > I think that would be the best solution indeed. Would the ones in favor of "not changing" (Robert Pluim, Joost Kremers) be ok with such a change or do they still find it counter-intuitive? I also agree that no matter what is chosen, it'd behave the same on all platforms. Philippe --00000000000005124d05724fc005 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The trick used on old macs was pretty good: instead of a= solid triangle (which can mean "pyramid" or "arrow"), = use increasingly narrow or increasingly wide layers:

This means "sorted small to large":

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=C2=A0 ___
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This means "sorted large to small":

_______
=C2=A0_____
=C2=A0 ___
=C2=A0 =C2=A0_

I think that would be th= e best solution indeed.

Would the ones in favor of= "not changing" (Robert Pluim, Joost Kremers) be ok with such a c= hange or do they still find it counter-intuitive?

= I also agree that no matter what is chosen, it'd behave the same on all= platforms.

Philippe

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