From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Tom Davey Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs very alive, active and improving? Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 17:30:29 -0400 Message-ID: References: <87pprkbodk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1381354256 14760 80.91.229.3 (9 Oct 2013 21:30:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 9 Oct 2013 21:30:56 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 09 23:31:00 2013 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VU1LQ-0001n6-2W for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 23:31:00 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:44002 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU1LP-0006Qh-Kw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:30:59 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:35244) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU1Ky-0006QW-8c for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:30:33 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU1Kx-0000lt-2M for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:30:32 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-wi0-x231.google.com ([2a00:1450:400c:c05::231]:40413) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1VU1Kw-0000ln-R9 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 17:30:30 -0400 Original-Received: by mail-wi0-f177.google.com with SMTP id hq15so1574606wib.4 for ; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:30:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=q7HYHFBFnDCxPR/px0kRzv+MvKBYDZ6zmvrDE/OnM18=; b=0/asKSrg0FWBNjm6a3pC2dja7qQl575ub6OevenLMlSauCiIDkgqEjkJpHaEBP+FVj cm2y/qXPv0d20NXFqilS/5/HYe32sypiWddfDZxtg2srT3RAeQ6fxcdwUhAsVRRfPTst HlW5lxDfGxX2YcHkNFIPAeApAQrc7PlbV5+yhlJu1zilqFuCj5KYHXs/EjBvMSvmxT00 Zdi6j5r0nfEqHTO/l354gPv9F/MxvHqAgLPN/Fdal+sVVKB4rSGsBaV6C4OQaU+UkohJ a/CQbBh8KE9XLnE0f8vSgfrBParK1oUPO+4JwbKUNacsXaCixl8V0g/Ol47P/Vw8JmT4 Mo9A== X-Received: by 10.180.187.41 with SMTP id fp9mr4490472wic.33.1381354229562; Wed, 09 Oct 2013 14:30:29 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.216.58.195 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Oct 2013 14:30:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87pprkbodk.fsf@nl106-137-194.student.uu.se> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2a00:1450:400c:c05::231 X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.14 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:93900 Archived-At: Emmanuel Berg writes: > The only group that I see a small hope for are > professional writers, translators, and such. I don't > know how they typically do their stuff, but I think they > would *love* Emacs! You are right. I am not a programmer, but rather a director-level business manager who runs an in-house Web development agency within a larger organization. I do all my writing and task management in Emacs. Org-mode is indispensable. I spend most of my day working in Emacs and Org. Emacs's extensibility is the other killer feature. I've taught myself a fair amount of elisp to customize Emacs to my workflow. So for me, the vim vs. Emacs debate is irrelevant. Emacs is far more than a programming editor. When I show my colleagues what Emacs can do as a quotidian business productivity tool they are surprised and impressed. By the way, I run Emacs happily on Windows 7 in a corporate environment that is 100% Microsoft. The native Windows binaries for Emacs are superb. Many thanks to whoever builds them. I do not use, nor really have any need for, Cygwin. Thanks to all for the interesting thread. -- Tom Davey tom@tomdavey.com New York NY USA