From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kaushal Modi Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.devel Subject: Re: [elpa] master 9173a44 1/2: [Fix #12] Don't autodisable beacon on hl-line-mode Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:28:46 -0400 Message-ID: References: <20151017213254.5317.59042@vcs.savannah.gnu.org> <877fmjflkk.fsf@mbork.pl> <83zizegbux.fsf@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1445268575 29897 80.91.229.3 (19 Oct 2015 15:29:35 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 15:29:35 +0000 (UTC) Cc: Stefan Monnier , Artur Malabarba , Emacs developers To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 19 17:29:34 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoCNR-0006bU-9a for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 17:29:33 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:40179 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoCNQ-0003UT-GF for ged-emacs-devel@m.gmane.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:29:32 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:4830:134:3::10]:48445) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoCNN-0003UL-4S for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:29:30 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoCNM-0007zz-6A for emacs-devel@gnu.org; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:29:29 -0400 Original-Received: from mail-oi0-x235.google.com ([2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235]:36706) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1ZoCNK-0007zI-EL; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 11:29:26 -0400 Original-Received: by oiao187 with SMTP id o187so43220975oia.3; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=N4dKFcknthS1JF8Kta0jAn77/xG6G8oSYL6JEM3zBOw=; b=xhSp7FbNmEB76ySHpK8MoWalJVNtPrKGbaam/qP4xC3FAfufLFxCFG55BPenH4bbyg p1m8+IOUhTEuoiz2U2H5875ZuHR5Mj4dHPGN6nXFWGW0XXiC+Dlxncs0bYoIYmfS5GUx t6x7EwEEC7kNc2wZsNACfAe1sEnFkgDyukwgWsaNx3LZkhM1yIycqJYSMIUYSF2D0Y4i oMLIa1KkSKIJZzVgX+zCGcPDY6D0Ju1YxxO3yOVB/KTm7cc8ZfhIMWAxLjXCXilCKtis e5YKPLSAKd43BevVavBaTCvB611trSTJnF6xXgtmXFbK5beENWkYZV+G9LGEbCPhLOIk bX7w== X-Received: by 10.202.215.136 with SMTP id o130mr18171304oig.85.1445268566055; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:29:26 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.202.44.8 with HTTP; Mon, 19 Oct 2015 08:28:46 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <83zizegbux.fsf@gnu.org> X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Error: Malformed IPv6 address (bad octet value). X-Received-From: 2607:f8b0:4003:c06::235 X-BeenThere: emacs-devel@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: "Emacs development discussions." List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: emacs-devel-bounces+ged-emacs-devel=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.devel:192110 Archived-At: > What exactly is wrong with that style, in an introductory text that is meant to take the reader by the hand and lead him/her through the magic of Emacs Lisp? Nothing is wrong with the style. I was mainly pointing out that the self-opinion style of text contradicted with what is recommended. - It is recommended that the user does not manually edit the Customize generated code blocks but a text I quoted says that the author did that it was fine. - Also the author does not use Customize most of the times whereas for a new user it is recommended to do so. -- Kaushal Modi On Mon, Oct 19, 2015 at 10:40 AM, Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> From: Kaushal Modi >> Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2015 10:00:50 -0400 >> Cc: Artur Malabarba , >> emacs-devel >> >> "Over time, I have set a considerable number of faces. Some of the >> time, I re-set them using customize; other times, I simply edit the >> custom-set-faces expression in my.emacs file itself." >> >> "I myself use customize for hardly anything. Mostly, I write >> expressions myself." >> >> Who is that "I"? > > The original author of that manual, Robert J. Chassell. This text was > there since before the Introduction was added to the Emacs repository. > >> I think all that personal opinion text should be removed. Correct? > > I'm not sure. The whole manual is written in that style, so doing > that would mean completely changing its spirit. Do we really want > that? What exactly is wrong with that style, in an introductory text > that is meant to take the reader by the hand and lead him/her through > the magic of Emacs Lisp?